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    Èá ðñïóðáèçóù íá åîçãçóù ðùò åéíáé äõíáôïí íá öïñôéóôåé åíá óôïé÷åéï LiPo ìå åíá áðëï öïñôéóôç NiCd êáé åíá balancer.Åäù ðñåðåé íá ðù ïôé ï ïñïò balancer äåí åéíáé êáôá ôçí ãíùìç ìïõ ï ðëåïí ïñèïò (èá åðñåðå íá ÷ñçóéìïðïéçóù ôïí ïñï åéäéêïò áðïìáóôåõôçò ñåõìáôïò) áëëá å÷åé åðéêñáôçóåé êáé ÷ñçóéìïðïéåéôáé åõñåùò êáé åôóé ôïí ÷ñçóéìïðïéù êáé åãù.
    Åðéóçò èá ðñåðåé íá ôïíéóù ïôé ,åáí êáðïéïò åéôå äåí êáôáëáâáéíåé óå ôé áíáöåñïìáé åéôå äåí å÷åé êáðïéåò âáóéêåò ãíùóåéò çëåêôñéóìïõ ,êáëï èá çôáí íá ìçí áó÷ïëçèåé áí äåí óõìâïõëåõôåé/ñùôçóåé êáðïéïí ðéï åéäéêï ãéá íá ìçí õðáñîïõí ðñïâëçìáôá.
    Óôï èåìá ôùñá.
    Åíáò áðëïò öïñôéóôçò NiCd óõíçèùò ðáñå÷åé óôï õðï öïñôéóç óôïé÷åéï åíá óôáèåñï ñåõìá öïñôéóçò êáé ôåñìáôéæåé ôçí öïñôéóç ìå äéáöïñåò ìåèïäïõò ìå ðéï äéáäåäïìåíç ôçí áíé÷íåõóç D-peak óôçí ôáóç ôçò õðï öïñôéóç ìðáôáñéáò.
    Åíáò ôåôïéïò öïñôéóôçò ÄÅÍ ÅÉÍÁÉ ÊÁÔÁËËÇËÏÓ ãéá íá öïñôéóïõìå åíá óôïé÷åéï LiPo äéïôé èá áíåâáæåé óõíå÷ùò ôçí ôáóç ôïõ óôïé÷åéïõ ïóï ðñïìçèåõåé ñåõìá ìå áðïôåëåóìá íá îåðåñáóïõìå ôçí êñéóéìç ôáóç 4,2V ðïõ åéíáé ç ìåãéóôç åðéôñåðôç ôáóç êáôá ôçí öïñôéóç åíïò óôïé÷åéïõ LiPo.Óôçí ðåñéðôùóç áõôç ôï óôïé÷åéï êáôáóôñåöåôáé êáé åáí óõíå÷éóåé ç áíïäïò ôçò ôáóçò ôïôå èá õðáñîåé öïõóêùìá ôïõ ðåñéâëçìáôïò(óáí ìðáëïíé) êáé óôçí óõíå÷åéá  ìáëëïí öùôéá(ðåñéðïõ ïôáí îåðåñáóôïõí ôá 5,5V).
    Åáí ïìùò óõíäåóïõìå ðáñáëëçëá ìå ôï õðï öïñôéóç óôïé÷åéï LiPo åíá balancer ôïôå ìðïñïõìå "öñåíáñïõìå" êáé íá óôáìáôçóïõìå áõôç ôçí óõíå÷ç áõîçóç ôçò ôáóçò ãéáôé ôï balancer èá áðïìáóôåõóåé ôï ñåõìá ôçò öïñôéóçò êáé åôóé èá ðáøåé ç áíïäïò ôçò ôáóçò ôïõ õðï öïñôéóç óôïé÷åéïõ LiPo.Ôï balancer åéíáé åíá çëåêñïíéêï êõêëùìá öôéáãìåíï åôóé ùóôå åáí óôïõò áêñïäåêôåò åéóïäïõ ôïõ "äåé" ôáóç ìåãáëõôåñç áðï 4,2V ôïôå ðáñïõóéáæåé ìéá ðïëõ ÷áìçëç áíôéóôáóç ìå áðïôåëåóìá ôï ñåõìá ôçò öïñôéóçò íá ìçí ðçãáéíåé ðñïò ôï óôïé÷åéï LiPo áëëá íá ðáñáêáìðôåôáé ðñïò ôï balancer.Áõôç ç ðáñáêáìøç ñåõìáôïò äåí ãéíåôáé ïôáí ç ôáóç ôïõ óôïé÷åéïõ åéíáé ìéêñïôåñç áðï 4,2V êáé åôóé åðéôñåðïõìå ôçí öïñôéóç ôïõ ìïíï ìå÷ñé áõôç ôç ôáóç ðõ åéíáé êáé ôï æçôïõìåíï.
    Ïôáí áñ÷éóåé ç ðáñáêáìøç ôïõ ñåõìáôïò öïñôéóçò ôïôå ôï åíåñãï ôìçìá ôïõ balancer ðáñáãåé èåñìïôçôá áíáëïãç ìå ôï ñåõìá öïñôéóçò.Äçëáäç ìåãáëï ñåõìá = ìåãáëç èåñìïêñáóéá  óôï balancer.Áõôï ðïõ ðñåðåé íá ðñïóåîïõìå åéíáé íá "áíôå÷åé" ôï balancer óôï ñåõìá öïñôéóçò ãéá íá ìçí êáôáóôñáöåé.Óõíçèùò ôá balancer å÷ïõí ìéá ïðôéêç åíäåéîç ôïõ ïôé îåêéíçóáí ôçí ðáñáêáìøç ôïõ ñåõìáôïò êáé áõôï åéíáé ôï óçìåéï ðïõ èá ðñåðåé íá äéáêïøïõìå ôçí öïñôéóç êáèùò ôï óôïé÷åéï åéíáé "ó÷åäïí" ãåìáôï êáé ðëåïí ôï ñåõìá ôçò öïñôéóçò äåí "ìðáéíåé" óôï óôïé÷åéï áëëá åêôïíùíåôáé ìå ôçí ìïñöç èåñìïôçôáò óôï balancer.Äåí åéíáé êáé ôïóï êñéóéìï íá äéáêïøïõìå ôçí öïñôéóç áìåóùò åöïóïí ôï balancer áíôå÷åé ôï óõíïëï ôïõ ñåõìáôïò öïñôéóçò áëëá êáëï åéíáé ãéá íá ìçí ôï æïñéæïõìå íá ôï êáíïõìå  ó÷åôéêá óõíôïìá.
    Óôçí åéêïíá 1 âëåðïõìå ôé ÄÅÍ ÐÑÅÐÅÉ ÍÁ ÊÁÍÏÕÌÅ
    Óôçí åéêïíá 2 âëåðïõìå ðùò ðñåðåé íá óõíäåèåé ôï balancer óôï õðï öïñôéóç óôïé÷åéï êáé ìå êïêêéíï ôïí äñïìï ôïõ ñåõìáôïò öïñôéóçò ïóï ç ôáóç åéíáé ìéêñïôåñç áðï 4,2V
    Óôçí åéêïíá 3 å÷åé áñ÷éóåé ç ðáñáêáìøç ôïõ ñåõìáôïò öïñôéóçò ìåóù ôïõ balancer êáèùò ç ôáóç åéíáé óôçí ðåñéï÷ç ôùí 4,2V êáé âëåðïõìå ïôé å÷åé áíáøåé ï ïðôéêïò åíäåéêôçò.
    Óôçí åéêïíá 4 ïëï ôï ñåõìá öïñôéóçò ðïõ ðñïìçèåõåé ï öïñôéóôçò ðåñíáåé ìåóá áðï ôï balancer êáé ðëåïí ìðïñïõìå íá äéáêïøïõìå ôçí öïñôéóç ãéáôé ï áðëïò öïñôéóôçò äåí ðñïêåéôáé íá ôçí ôåëåéùóåé ðïôå ìïíïò ôïõ(åêôïò êáé áí å÷åé ÷ñïíéêï ïñéï öïñôéóçò ðïõ åéíáé ìéá ÷ñçóéìç éäåá).
    Ïëá ôá ðáñáðáíù áíáöåñïíôáí óå åíá óôïé÷åéï LiPo 3,7V áëëá éó÷õïõí êáé ãéá ðåñéóóïôåñá ïðùò öáéíåôáé óôï ðáñáäåéãìá ôçò åéêïíáò 5 ìå äõï óôïé÷åéá LiPo 7,4V.

    Óçìåéá ðïõ ÷ñåéáæïíôáé ðñïóï÷ç.
    Ôá óôïé÷åéá LiPo öïñôéæïõí ìå ìåãéóôï ñåõìá 1C(C=÷ùñçôéêïôçôá) ð.÷. åíá óôïé÷åéï 1000mAh èá ðñåðåé íá öïñôéóôåé ìå 1Á ôï ðïëõ ñåõìá öïñôéóçò.Ìéêñïôåñï ñåõìá åéíáé áðïäåêôï åéò âáñïò ôïõ ÷ñïíïõ öïñôéóçò.
    Ï öïñôéóôçò ðñåðåé íá ìðïñåé íá öïñôéóåé áðï ðëåõñáò ôáóåùò ôá óôïé÷åéá LiPo .Ð.×. ãéá ìðáôáñéá 4 óôïé÷åéùí LiPo èá ðñåðåé íá åéíáé äõíáôïôçôáò 15 óôïé÷åéùí NiCd.
    Ôá balancer ðñåðåé íá áíôå÷ïõí ôï ñåõìá ôçò öïñôéóçò. ð.÷. ìå balancer ðïõ áíôå÷ïõí 0,4Á ôï ìåãéóôï åðéôñåðôï ñåõìá öïñôéóçò åéíáé 0,4Á.

    Ôåëïò õðáñ÷ïõí êáé êáðïéåò áëëåò ëåðôïìåñåéåò ó÷åôéêá ìå ôá ðáñáðáíù ðïõ áí åíäéáöåñïõí ìðïñïõí íá ðáñáôåèïõí óôï ìåëëïí.

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    « ÁðÜíôçóç #2 óôéò: Ôñßôç, 17 Áðñ 2007, 21:30:52 »

    óõãíùìç ðïõ åðåìâáéíù óôï èåìá áëëá èá çèåëá íá äéåõêñéíçóù êáðïéá ðñáãìáôá ó÷åôéêá ìå ôïõò balancer (ãéáôé äåí åéìáé óéãïõñïò ïôé å÷ù êáôáëáâåé êáëá ôçí ëåéôïõñãéá ôïõò)
    äéáâáóá ôï èåìá êáé êáôé äåí ìïõ "êïëáåé" åôóé ïðùò ôï ðåñéãñáöåéò

    áí å÷ù êáôáëáâåé êáëá balancer åéíáé ôá êõêëùìáôá ðïõ ôá óõíäåïõìå ÌÅÔÁ ôïí öïñôéóôç êáé ÐÑÉÍ ôçí ìðáôáñéá ãéá íá åðéôçñïõí ôçí ôáóç ôïõ êáèå áíåîáñôçôïõ êåëéïõ óå ìéá ìðáôáñéá li-ion, li-po, å÷ïõí í+1 áêñïäåêôåò ãéá í óôïé÷åéá êáé óõíäåïíôáé óôçí åéäéêç õðïäï÷ç ðïõ öåñåé ç ìðáôáñéá

    åáí éó÷õïõí ôá ðáñáðáíù ôïôå ôï êõêëùìá ìïëéò áíôéëçöèåé ôáóç ìåãáëõôåñç áðï ôçí ðñïêáèïñéóìåíç ôïôå áðïêïðôåé ôï óõãêåêñéìåíï óôïé÷åéï åíù óõíå÷éæåé ìå ôá áëëá ìå÷ñé íá öôáóïõí êáé áõôá óôï éäéï óçìåéï

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    Ôï êáèå balancer  óõíäååôáé ðáñáëëçëá ìå ôï óôïé÷åéï ðïõ åëåã÷åé ÐÁÍÔÁ.
    Ïíôùò ôá êáëùäéá ðïõ âãáæåé åíá balancer bank(äçëáäç óõóôïé÷éá áðï balancer) åéíáé í+1 ïðùò ëåò åöïóïí áðï ôçí ìðáôáñéá ôïõò ìåôáîõ ôïõò óõíäåäåìåíïõò ðïëïõò ôùí óôïé÷åéùí ôïõò âãáæïõìå åîù óáí åíá êáëùäéï åöïóïí çëåêôñéêá åéíáé ôï éäéï êáé åôóé å÷ïõìå ïéêïíïìéá óå êáëùäéá êáé âáñïò.Åäù âåâáéá õðáñ÷åé ìéá ëåðôïìåñåéá ïóïí áöïñá ôá ñåõìáôá ðïõ äéáôñå÷ïõí áõôï ôï êïéíï êáëùäéï áëëá íïìéæù ïôé åðé ôïõ ðáñïíôïò áò ôï áöçóïõìå ãéáôé åéíáé ïíôùò åðïõóéùäåò èåìá.
    Äåí ãéíåôáé áðïêïðç ôïõ óôïé÷åéïõ ìå ôçí ìåãáëõôåñç áðï ôçí ðñïêáèïñéóìåíç ôáóç áëëá ðáñáêáìøç ôïõ ñåõìáôïò åôóé ùóôå íá ìçí öïñôéæåôáé áëëï .
    Áí äéáâáóåéò ðñïóåêôéêá îáíá êáé äåéò ôéò åéêïíåò íïìéæù èá êáôáëáâåéò.Îáíáñùôá ïôé äåí êáôáëáâáéíåéò óõãêåêñéìåíá.

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