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    Ôçí äýóêïëç ðëåõñÜ ôçò äåîáìåíÞò ðïõ ÷ñåéÜæåóáé ôçí Ý÷åéò ÝôïéìÞ.  Åßíáé ôï ßäéï ôï cowl.ÐñïóôÜôåõóÝ ìå strech film Ôïí êéíçôÞñá êáé ðÜôá ìßá ðïëõïõñåèÜíç .
    Ôñéìáñéóå ôçí íá áîéïðïéÞóåéò üóï ôï äõíáôüí ðåñéóóüôåñï ÷þñï, ñßîå ôÝóóåñá / ðåíôå 80áñéá õöÜóìáôá ãõáëß ðÜíï, áíïéîå ôñýðåò ãéá ôï feed êáé êÜøå ôçí ðïëõïõñåèÜíç ìå âåíæßíá.
    Áí êáôáöÝñåéò íá ãåìßæåéò 1LT sto cowl óçìáßíåé 1 kg ôï ïðïßï èá ôï Áöáéñåßò üôáí óå æõãßæïõí.
    ¢ñá óôü÷ïò åßíáé íá âãÜëåéò 600?ãñáì. áðü ôï óõíïëéêü âÜñïò ...Üó÷åôïò  áí åßíáé áðü ôçí ïõñÜ Þ áðü ôç ìýôç!

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    Åíá ìéêñï speed controller êáé Ýíá êáíÜëé éóá íá ôï êÜíåéò íá ãõñßæåé.¸ôóé âãÜæåéò êáé ìðáôáñßåò äåêôÞ êáé ignition Ãéá ôï æýãéóìá  Áíåóç

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    Ó÷åôéêÜ ìå ôá Scratch builds VS kits



    ......... Åßôå scratch åßôå êáôáóêåõÞ kit, ôá outlines åßíáé áðïôÝëåóìá ôçò éêáíüôçôáò ôïõ êáôáóêåõáóôÞ. ..............
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    sorry ãéá ôçí áñãïðïñçìÝíç áðáíôçóÞ George Èá ðñïóðáèÞóù íá ìðáßíù ðéï óõ÷íÜ.

    ÐáñÜäåéãìá.Óåëßäá 5 post 66.Ôï outline ôçò êÜôïøçò ôçò áôñÜêôïõ.
    ¼ðùò êáé óå üëá ôá êéô ,ï ìïíôåëéóôÞò ðñÝðåé íá áêïëïõèåß ðéóôÜ äéÜ ñïðÜëïõ ôéò ãñáììÝò ðÜíù óôï ó÷Ýäéï ôïõ åñãïóôáóßïõ.
    Ôé åðßäñáóç Ý÷åé ï ìïíôåëéóôÞò óå áõôü ôï outline ?? ? Ôá 3mm ðÝôóùìÜ êáé ôï 1mm ôñßøéìï;
    Óå üëåò ôéò üøåéò áêïëïõèåßôáé ðéóôÜ ôï outline ôïõ ó÷åäßïõ ðïõ ïñßæåé ôï åñãïóôÜóéï. Áëëéþò, ôá Ýôïéìá frames öôåñïý Þ áôñÜêôïõ äåí èá áêïõìðïýí Þ èá åîÝ÷ïõí.
    Êáé ï ëüãïò ðïõ áãïñÜæïõìå êéô åéíáé áêñéâþò áõôüò! Ç åõêïëßá ôùí ðñïìåëåôçìÝíùí Ýôïéìùí frames ðïõ åããõïýíôáé ôï ôåëéêü æçôïýìåíï ó÷Þìá ôïõ ó÷åäßïõ.
    = Óôá kit, ôá outlines ÄÅÍ åßíáé áðïôÝëåóìá ôçò éêáíüôçôáò ôïõ ìïíôåëéóôÞ.

    Ç F4 áëëéþò ãéá ìÝíá ëÝãåôáé äéáãùíéóìüò ãëõðôéêÞò ìå áíôéêåßìåíï ôï áåñïðëÜíï.  
    Êáé ôï ôáëÝíôï åíüò scratch builder åßíáé ç äçìéïõñãßá åíüò ãëõðôïý ,ðéóôü áíôßãñáöï ôïõ fullsize .
    Áõôü ëïéðüí ôï ãëõðôü èá ôåìá÷ßóåé ï scratch builder  íá ðáñåé ôá frames , ãéá íá áíáðáñáãÜãåé ôï ßäéï ìïíôÝëï åëáöñýôåñï .
    ÌïíôÝëï ôïõ ïðïßïõ ôï outline  ,ï scratch builder  åéíáé åîïëïêëÞñïõ õðåýèõíïò.


    ÅÜí êÜðïéïò ìïíôåëéóôÞò áãïñÜóåé áõôÜ ôá frames , üóï êáé êáëüò êáôáóêåõáóôÞò íá åßíáé, óôçí êáëýôåñç ðåñßðôùóç èá áíáðáñáãÜãåé ôï áñ÷éêü ãëõðôü,
     ðïõ ôåìá÷ßóôçêå áðï ôïí scratch builder. Ôßðïôá ðåñéóóüôåñï. Áëëéüò ï ¸êôïñáò èá ìðïñïýóå íá öôéÜîåé êáé p-51 áðï áõôï ôï kit.


    ÁõôÞ ôç óôéãìÞ ü÷é ìüíï õðïôéìïýìå ôçí äïõëåéÜ ðïõ ÷ñåéÜæåôáé Ýíá ìïíôÝëï íá öôéá÷ôåß áðü ôï ìçäÝí óå ó÷Ýóç ìå åíá kit ðïõ Ý÷åé Ýôïéìá frames êáé áäéêïýìå âáèìïëïãéêÜ ôïõò scratch builders.
    Ôáõôü÷ñïíá áðïèáññýíïõìå ïðïéïäÞðïôå ìðïñåß íá äïõëåýåé Ýíá scratch build áðü ôï íá óõíå÷ßóåé.  
    Êáé ôï ôáëÝíôï ôùí scratch builders ðñÝðåé íá áíáäåéêíýåôáé íá ðñïóôáôåýåôáé êáé íá ìçí ìðåñäåýåôå ìå ôïí óõíáñìïëïãçôÞ åíüò kit.
    ÖõóéêÜ êáé ç óõíáñìïëüãçóç åíüò kit áðáéôåß ÐÁÑÁ ðïëý äïõëåéÜ.
    Ç äçìéïõñãßá üìùò ôïõ áñ÷éêïý ãëõðôïý (plug) ,áó÷Ýôùò áí ðáñá÷èïýí ôïìÝò frames  Þ êáëïýðéá, áðáéôåß ôñïìåñÜ ðåñéóóüôåñç äïõëåéÜ êáé ÔÁËÅÍÔÏ .


    Ãéá ìÝíá ôá kit åéíáé óôçí ßäéá êáôçãïñßá ìå ôá êáëïõðùôÜ ôùí ïðïßùí ôá åóùôåñéêÜ  frames ðïõ óôçñßæïõí öôåñÜ fins stabs êïëëÞèçêáí áðü ôïí ìïíôåëéóôÞ
     êáé åßíáé áõôüò õðåýèõíïò ãéá ôçí êáèåôüôçôá ôïõò. Ôßðïôá ðåñéóóüôåñï.

    Ï ¸êôïñáò áí êñßíù áðü ôï ðéëïôÞñéï Ý÷åé ôï ôáëÝíôï íá äçìéïõñãÞóåé ðéóôÜ ïñãáíéêÜ áíôéêåßìåíá âÜóç öùôïãñáöéþí , Üñá ìðïñåß íá äçìéïõñãÞóåé äéêü ôïõ áåñïðëÜíï..

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    Ôá õðüëïéðá ðïõ ãñÜöåéò åßíáé ðñïóùðéêÝò áðüøåéò (óåâáóôÝò) Þ åõ÷ïëüãéá. Ï êáíïíéóìüò åßíáé ï ìðïýóïõëÜò ìáò, ü÷é ôé èåùñïýìå åìåßò óùóôü Þ ëÜèïò Þ äßêáéï Þ Üäéêï...

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    Ãéþñãï êáëçìÝñá.
    ÅÜí åéíáé èÝìá åñìçíåßáò ôùí êáíïíéóìþí ôüôå öõóéêÜ êáé åéíáé èÝìá ãíþìçò. Ãéáôß ïé êáíïíéóìïß áëëÜæïõí üôáí áëëÜîåé ç ãíþìç.
    Ðéóôåýåéò ïôé äåí ÷ñåéÜæåôáé åñìçíåßá êáé åéíáé îåêÜèáñï ?
    Åß÷á äéáâÜóåé ôïí êáíïíéóìü (Effective 1st January 2025 ) ÷ùñéò íá äù üôé ôá scratch kai ta kits âáèìïëïãïýíôáé ôï ßäéï.
    Ìðïñåßò íá ìå êáèïäçãÞóåéò óôçí ðáñÜãñáöï ðïõ áíáöÝñåóáé óå ðáñáêáëþ?

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    « ÁðÜíôçóç #112 óôéò: ÐáñáóêåõÞ, 13 Éïõí 2025, 11:41:08 »

    ÊáëçìÝñá Ãéþñãï,

    Óïõ ôï áðÜíôçóá Þäç.

    Ç ìüíç áíáöïñÜ ðïõ ãßíåôáé ãéá áíÜãêç äéáöïñåôéêÞò áíôéìåôþðéóçò êáé âáèìïëüãçóçò, áöïñÜ óôá êáëïõðùôÜ ìïíôÝëá áðü êáëïýðéá ôñßôùí.

    Äåí ãßíåôáé Üëëç áíáöïñÜ, óå êéô Þ scratch built, Üñá (ðñïöáíþò) áíôéìåôùðßæïíôáé ßóá êáé üìïéá.

    Äåí õðÜñ÷åé ðáñÜãñáöïò ðïõ íá ôï äçëþíåé ñçôÜ, üðùò ôï æçôÜò. ÁðëÜ äåí ãßíåôáé êáìßá áíáöïñÜ ãéá äéáöïñåôéêÞ âáèìïëüãçóç. Ýôóé åßíáé ãñáììÝíïò ï êáíïíéóìüò, áíáöÝñåé ôéò åîáéñÝóåéò, ôá õðüëïéðá åßíáé êáíüíáò.

    Äåí åßíáé èÝìá åñìçíåßáò áëëÜ áðëÞò ëïãéêÞò.

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    ........Äåí åßíáé èÝìá åñìçíåßáò áëëÜ áðëÞò ëïãéêÞò.




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    óÝâïìáé ôçí åìðåéñßá óïõ áëëÜ óå áõôü ôï èÝìá ç ëïãéêÞ ëÝåé áõôü ðïõ áðïäåéêíýù óôï post ìïõ #110

    Ôï èÝìá Ý÷åé óõæçôçèåß êáé ìå ôïí Cris Allen êáé Þôáí îåêÜèáñïò.
    "In F4C if the fuselage is built up from a traditional kit of Die-cut wooden parts, then some marks should be awarded.
    Maximum marks would only be awarded for a scratch-built fuselage“

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    ï êáíïíéóìüò ëÝåé Üëëá üìùò...

    êáé áõôüí áêïëïõèïýìå üëïé ïé êñéôÝò óôïõò áãþíåò ðïõ Ýêñéíá...

    Ïé áðüøåéò ôïõ Chris äåí ôïõò âñßóêïõí üëïõò óýìöùíïõò óå üëá.

    Ãéþñãï, óõããíþìç áëëÜ äåí áðïäåéêíýåéò ôßðïôá óôï #110, áðëÜ åêöñÜæåéò ìéá Üðïøç-ãíþìç.

    ÎáíáëÝù, äåßîå ìïõ îåêÜèáñç áíáöïñÜ óôïí êáíïíéóìü ãéá ìïíôÝëá áðü êéô, ìç êáëïõðùôÜ, êáé ôüôå èá óõìöùíÞóù.

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    « ÁðÜíôçóç #115 óôéò: ÐáñáóêåõÞ, 3 Ïêô 2025, 20:40:36 »

    ÊáëçóðÝñá Ãéþñãï,

    óôï ðïóô ìïõ #110 áðïäåéêíýù ïôé åíá êéô å÷åé áðïôÝëåóìá åíá ðñïìåëåôçìÝíï outline ðïõ äåí åõèýíåôáé ï ìïíôåëéóôÞò ãéáõôï áëëÜ ôï åñãïóôÜóéï ðïõ ðáñÜãåé ôï kit .
    Óå áíôßèåóç ìå åíá scratch build ðïõ ï ìïíôåëéóôÞò åéíáé åîïëïêëÞñïõ õðåýèõíïò ãéá ôï outline .

    Êáé ï ìüíïò ëüãïò ðïõ äåí áíáöÝñåôå îåêÜèáñá óôïí êáíïíéóìü ôçò C,  is .... to make up the numbers ( óõììåôï÷Ýò ).

    ÉÌÇÏ kits & scratchbuilds äåí ðñÝðåé íá Ý÷ïõí ôçí ßäéá âáèìïëüãçóç óôï outline.
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