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[Dimitris Kriti]

Aíåìïðïñïé, ãéá äùóôå ôá öùôá óáò...
Óôï manual ôïõ blizzard ãñáöåé ãéá ôñåéò äéáöïñåôé�åò ëåéôïõñãéåò ôùí ðçäáëéùí: Flaps, flap-snap, �áé spoilers.
�ðïñåé �áðïéïò íá ìïõ åîçãçóåé ìå äõï ëïãéá ôçí �áèå ëåéôïõñãéá �áé ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéçôáé;

[Stargazer]

Aíåìïðïñïé, ãéá äùóôå ôá öùôá óáò...
Óôï manual ôïõ blizzard ãñáöåé ãéá ôñåéò äéáöïñåôé�åò ëåéôïõñãéåò ôùí ðçäáëéùí: Flaps, flap-snap, �áé spoilers.
�ðïñåé �áðïéïò íá ìïõ åîçãçóåé ìå äõï ëïãéá ôçí �áèå ëåéôïõñãéá �áé ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéçôáé;

Flaps å�íáé üôáí ôá 2 aileron ðïõ �÷åé �áôåâ�íïõí ðñïò ôá �áôù ôáõôü÷ñïíá �ôóé �üâåéò ë�ãç ôá÷�ôçôá áíåâá�íåé ç �íùóç ôçò ð�ñéãáò �áé ìðïñåé íá ðåô�îåé ðéï áñã� å�íáé üôé ðñ�ðåé ãéá ðñïóãåéþóç óå óôåíï äé�äñïìï
Spoilers å�íáé üôáí áíåâá�íïõí ðñïò ôá ð�íù �áé ã�íïíôáé öñ�íá
ôþñá ôï flap snap äåí î�ñù ôé å�íáé

ó�ìå�ïóå üôé áõô� ìðïñïýí íá ã�íïõí áí ôá õðïóôçñ�æåé ç Ô/� �áé ôáõôü÷ñïíá ìå ôçí ëåéôïõñãå�á ôùí aileron (flaperon ç spoileron)

[Dimitris Kriti]

E÷ù ôçí DX7 �áé áðï ôï ëéãï ðïõ åøáîá ôï ìåíïõ ôá õðïóôçñéæåé. �ñá flaps=ailerons ðñïò ôá �áôù ãéá íá �ïøïõìå ôá÷õôçôá óôçí ðñïóãéùóç, �áé spoilers=ailerons ðñïò ôá ðáíù, ãéá íá "öñåíáñïõìå" �áé íá �áíïõìå �áèïäï; �ôáí å÷ïõìå áíåâáóåé ôá spoilers,áí ôï ìïíôåëï ÷áóåé ðïëõ ôá÷õôçôá, óôïëáñåé ðïéï åõ�ïëá;

[Stargazer]

E÷ù ôçí DX7 �áé áðï ôï ëéãï ðïõ åøáîá ôï ìåíïõ ôá õðïóôçñéæåé. �ñá flaps=ailerons ðñïò ôá �áôù ãéá íá �ïøïõìå ôá÷õôçôá óôçí ðñïóãéùóç, �áé spoilers=ailerons ðñïò ôá ðáíù, ãéá íá "öñåíáñïõìå" �áé íá �áíïõìå �áèïäï; �ôáí å÷ïõìå áíåâáóåé ôá spoilers,áí ôï ìïíôåëï ÷áóåé ðïëõ ôá÷õôçôá, óôïëáñåé ðïéï åõ�ïëá;

Ôóá��ëé å�óáé ì�ôóï! Ôï �áë�ôåñï ãéá ì�íá èá �ôáí íá â�ëåéò Flaperons �ôóé èá �÷åéò �áíïíé�á ailerons �áé üôáí ðáô�ò ôïí äéá�üðôç flap/Gyro áí èçì�ìáé �áë� ôá aileron èá �áôåâá�íïõí áëëá �áé ð�ëé èá ëåéôïõñãïýí óáí aileron

[Dimitris Kriti]

Aðï ôçí óôéãìç ðïõ å÷ù åíá ìïíï ðçäáëéï óôï �áèå öôåñï, ëïãé�á èá äçìéïõñãéóù ôñåéò äéáöïñåôé�åò èåóåéò ãéá ôï �åíôñï ôïõ aileron (up-0-down), ðïõ èá áëáæåé áðï åíá äéá�ïðôç ùóôå íá å÷ù åëåã÷ï ôïõ aileron çôå ôá ðçäáëéá å�ôñáðïõí ðñïò ôá ðáíù óáí spoilers, çôå ðñïò ôá �áôù óáí flaps,óùóôá;

[Stargazer]

Aðï ôçí óôéãìç ðïõ å÷ù åíá ìïíï ðçäáëéï óôï �áèå öôåñï, ëïãé�á èá äçìéïõñãéóù ôñåéò äéáöïñåôé�åò èåóåéò ãéá ôï �åíôñï ôïõ aileron (up-0-down), ðïõ èá áëáæåé áðï åíá äéá�ïðôç ùóôå íá å÷ù åëåã÷ï ôïõ aileron çôå ôá ðçäáëéá å�ôñáðïõí ðñïò ôá ðáíù óáí spoilers, çôå ðñïò ôá �áôù óáí flaps,óùóôá;

[heli-division]

ola afta ginonte an to ena servo vriskete sto aileron kai to alo sto aux1 hy thesi gia flaperons einai normal pou einai piso o diakoptis stin thesi middle pou einai se idle 1 o diakoptis kai stin thesi landing pou einai idle 2 o diakoptis
episis stin idia kartela tis t/k mporis n akanis miksi me ta flaperons na anevazis kai ligo elevator katevenontas san kota top montelo kai esi apla na kanis psilodiorthosis apla theli psaksimo en wra ptisis diladi na prosgeioseis na deis pos kateveni kai na kanis tis aparetites rithmisis

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üëá áõô� ã�íïíôáé áí ôï �íá servo âñ�ó�åôå óôï aileron �áé ôï �ëëï óôï aux1 ÷åé è�óç ãéá "öëáðåñïíò" å�íáé normal ðïõ å�íáé ð�óù ï äéá�üðôçò óôçí è�óç middle ðïõ å�íáé óå idle 1 ï äéá�üðôçò �áé óôçí è�óç landing ðïõ å�íáé idle 2 ï äéá�üðôçò
åð�óçò óôçí �äéá �áñô�ëá ôéò t/k ìðïñå�ò ç "á�áíéò" ì�îç ìå ôá "öëáðåñïíò" íá áíåâ�æåéò �áé ë�ãï elevator �áôåâá�íïíôáò óáí �üôá top ìïíô�ëï �áé åóý áðë� íá �áíåéò "øéëïäéïñèïóeéò" áðë� è�ëåé ø�îéìï åí þñá ðô�óçò äçëáä� íá ðñïóãåéþóåéò íá äåéò ðùò �áôåâá�íåé �áé íá �áíåéò ôéò áðáñá�ôçôåò ñõèìéóåéò

[Nick1150]

áí ðñü�åéôáé íá �õíçã�ò ôá èåñìé�ïýëéá ð�íïíôáò ôïí öñáð� óïõ....ôüôå ôï rudder ôï ÷ñåé�æåóáé.

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ΓΉΓ±Γ΅Γ�Γ΅ öùôü   

óõãíþìç ðá�äåò óõíå÷�óôå íá ìáèá�íïõìå

Γ³ΓΌΓ±Γµ ãéá ôï offtopic 

[Dimitris Kriti]

ola afta ginonte an to ena servo vriskete sto aileron kai to alo sto aux1 hy thesi gia flaperons einai normal pou einai piso o diakoptis stin thesi middle pou einai se idle 1 o diakoptis kai stin thesi landing pou einai idle 2 o diakoptis
episis stin idia kartela tis t/k mporis n akanis miksi me ta flaperons na anevazis kai ligo elevator katevenontas san kota top montelo kai esi apla na kanis psilodiorthosis apla theli psaksimo en wra ptisis diladi na prosgeioseis na deis pos kateveni kai na kanis tis aparetites rithmisis

Äåí å÷ù áó÷ïëçèåé îáíá ìå ôï áåñïðïñé�ï mode ôçò dx7, ôùñá ôï øá÷íù. �í �ïëëçóù ðïõèåíá èá óöõñéîù íá âáëåôå �áíá ÷åñá�é...

[Dimitris Kriti]

Nick1150, äåí ðçñá ôåëé�á ôçí óåéñçíá... ôï blizzard �ïëëáåé ìå logo!!!

[heli-division]

ola afta ginonte an to ena servo vriskete sto aileron kai to alo sto aux1 hy thesi gia flaperons einai normal pou einai piso o diakoptis stin thesi middle pou einai se idle 1 o diakoptis kai stin thesi landing pou einai idle 2 o diakoptis
episis stin idia kartela tis t/k mporis n akanis miksi me ta flaperons na anevazis kai ligo elevator katevenontas san kota top montelo kai esi apla na kanis psilodiorthosis apla theli psaksimo en wra ptisis diladi na prosgeioseis na deis pos kateveni kai na kanis tis aparetites rithmisis

Äåí å÷ù áó÷ïëçèåé îáíá ìå ôï áåñïðïñé�ï mode ôçò dx7, ôùñá ôï øá÷íù. �í �ïëëçóù ðïõèåíá èá óöõñéîù íá âáëåôå �áíá ÷åñá�é...

min fantastis k ego elikopteras eimai ta ematha apo ta foamies pou petao tous vazo flaperons gia n akanoun low pas episis h dx7 sou exei mia rithmisi me to pososto tou gkaziou diladi na aniksoun se flaperons otan esi klisis to gkazi pithanotata katastasi prosgeiosis alla kai sto poso tis ekato tou stik na ksanaklinoun px lathos prosegisi anigis gkazi kai klinoun mona tous 

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ìçí öáíôáóôåΓ�Γ² k åãþ "åëéΓ�ïðôåñáò" Γ¥Γ�ìáé ôá Γ�ìáèá áðü ôá foamies ðïõ ðåôΓ�ΓΉ ôïõò ΓΆΓ�æï "öëáðåñïíò" ãéá Γ§ "Γ΅Γ�áíïõí" low ðáò åðΓ�óçò Γ§ dx7 Γ³Γ―Γµ Γ�÷åé ìéá ñýèìéóç ìå ôï ðïóïóôü ôïõ Γ£Γ�áæéïý äçëáäΓ� Γ­Γ΅ áíïΓ�îïõí Γ³Γ¥ "öëáðåñïíò" üôáí åóý Γ�Γ«Γ�óçò ôï Γ£Γ�Γ�æé ðéèáíüôáôá Γ�áôΓ�óôáóç ðñïóãåΓ�ùóçò áëëá Γ�áé óôï ðïóï ôéò Γ¥Γ�áôü ôïõ stik Γ­Γ΅ îáíáΓ�ëåΓ�Γ­Γ―ΓµΓ­ ð÷ Γ«Γ�èïò ðñïóΓ�ããéóç áíïΓ�ãåéò Γ£Γ�Γ�æé Γ�áé Γ�ëåΓ�Γ­Γ―ΓµΓ­ ìïíá ôïõò 

[Nick1150]

Nick1150, äåí ðçñá ôåëé�á ôçí óåéñçíá... ôï blizzard �ïëëáåé ìå logo!!!

ÃéáôΓ� åãþ ðïõ ôçí Γ°Γ�Γ±Γ΅, ΓΆΓ±Γ�Γ�Γ΅ Γ·Γ±ΓΌΓ­Γ― Γ­Γ΅ ôçí ðåôΓ�îù ; 

Γ�áëΓ� Γ�Γ�áíåò 

[Ãé�ííçò �ùíóôáíôá��ôïò]

Ç åôáéñå�á ðïõ âã�æåé áõôü ôï áíåìüðôåñï �÷åé ôç ö�ìç üôé ãíùñ�æåé �áë� ôï áíôé�å�ìåíï, áëë� ôï óõã�å�ñéì�íï ìïíô�ëï èåùñå�ôáé åéóáãùãé�ü óôçí �áôçãïñ�á ôùí hotliners, äåí å�íáé åéóáãùãé�ü óôçí �áôçãïñ�á ôùí áíåìüðôåñùí åí ã�íåé.

Ôá ìïíô�ëá hotliners äéáãùí�æïíôáé óå ��ëõøç áðüóôáóçò �áé äé�ñ�åéá, óôçí �äéá ðô�óç, ìå ôçí �äéá ìðáôáñ�á. Ç áðüóôáóç ìåôñ�ôáé óå �ëåéóô� äéáäñïì�, ãýñù áðü óå äýï ðõëþíåò (â�óåéò). Åäþ �÷åé ÷ñüíï 4 ëåðô� ãéá íá �áëýøåé ôçí ìåãáëýôåñç áðüóôáóç ðïõ ìðïñå�, ìå åë�÷éóôç ÷ñ�óç ìïô�ñ å�ôüò ôùí â�óåùí.
�ì�óùò ìåô� ðá�ñíïõí ýøïò �áé ðñïóðáèïýí íá äéáôçñçèïýí óôïí á�ñá á�üìá 10 ëåðô�, ÷ùñ�ò íá îáíáâ�ëïõí ìïô�ñ.

Ãéá íá ðåôý÷åé áõôïýò ôïõò óôü÷ïõò, ôï áíåìüðôåñï âáó�æåôáé óôïí �áëü ëüãï ïë�óèçóçò, ôçí ìé�ñ� ïðéóè�ë�ïõóá, �áé ôçí ìåã�ëç ôá÷ýôçô� ôïõ.

Ãéá ôï óõã�å�ñéì�íï áíåìüðôåñï ðñïôå�íù íá åðéëåãïýí äýï ó�ñâï ãéá ôçí ïõñ� þóôå íá õð�ñ÷åé �áé ç äõíáôüôçôá rudder.

Ôá ðçä�ëéá ailerons, �÷ïõí ðïëëáðë� áðïóôïë�. �ëëïôå ëåéôïõñãïýí ùò áðë� ðçä�ëéá �ë�óåùò, �ëëïôå ùò ðçä�ëéá �áìðõëüôçôáò (flaps) �áé �ëëïôå ùò áåñüöñåíá (spoilers).

Ùò áåñüöñåíá å�ôñ�ðïíôáé �Ñ�Ó Å���Ù �áé è�ëïõí �áé ì�îç down elevator ãéá áíôéóô�èìéóìá.

Ùò flaps Γ¥Γ�ôñΓ�ðïíôáé Γ¥Γ�ôå ðñïò ôá åðΓ�Γ­ΓΉ 2 ÷éë, (speed), Γ¥Γ�ôå ðáñáìΓ�Γ­Γ―ΓµΓ­ óôçí Γ―ΓµΓ¤Γ�ôåñç Γ¨Γ�Γ³Γ§ (neutral), 
å�ôå å�ôñ�ðïíôáé ðñïò ôá ��ôù 2 ÷éë. (thermal).
�õô�ò ïé ñõèì�óåéò óõíáíôþíôáé óå üëá ôá áíåìüðôåñá ìå ðçä�ëéá óôï ÷å�ëïò å�öõã�ò (flaps �áé ailerons, � ìüíï ailerons)
 
Ç ö�óç speed åðéë�ãåôáé üôáí è�ëïõìå íá �áëýøïõìå ãñ�ãïñá áðüóôáóç ãéá íá öýãïõìå áðü �íá �áèïäé�ü, � ãéá íá åðéóôñ�øïõìå óôï óçìå�ï ðñïóãå�ùóçò �üíôñá óå ðí�ïíôá �íåìï.
Ç ö�óç thermal åðéë�ãåôáé üôáí ��íïõìå �ý�ëïõò ì�óá óå èåñìé�ü.

Ç ôåëåõôá�á áðïñ�á ðïõ ÷ñåé�æåôáé åðåî�ãçóç å�íáé ôï snap flap (flap snap). Å�íáé ì�îç ôùí ðçäáë�ùí flaps, ìå ôï elevator, óå áíô�èåôç öïñ�, �ôóé þóôå üôáí ôñáâ�ìå up elevator ôï flap íá å�ôñ�ðåôáé �ùò 5 ÷éëéïóô� ðñïò ôá ��ôù. Äåí ÷ñåé�æåôáé ôï áíô�èåôï äçëáä� íá å�ôñ�ðïíôáé ðñïò ôá åð�íù üôáí ä�íïõìå down elevator.
�å ôçí ì�îç áõô�, ôï öôåñü áõî�íåé ôçí ãùí�á ðñïóâïë�ò ôïõ, ÷ùñ�ò íá ðåñéóôñ�öåôáé óå ìåã�ëç ãùí�á ç �ôñá�ôïò. Âïçè�åé ôçí åð�ôåõîç óôñïö�ò, ìå ìåéùì�íï ��íäõíï áðþëåéáò óô�ñéîçò.

Ô�ëïò ôá áíåìüðôåñá áõô� ÷ñåé�æïíôáé ìåã�ëï �áèáñü ðåä�ï ðñïóãå�ùóçò, ãéáô� �ñáôéïýíôáé ãéá ðïëý þñá/áðüóôáóç óôï ground effect ðñéí á�ïõìð�óïõí.

�ãáðçô� Äçì�ôñç, ðåñ�ìåíå íá âñåéò äéðëïýìåíç �ëé�á ðñéí ôçí ðñþôç ðô�óç. Ç �ëé�á óôáèåñþí ðôåñõã�ùí å�ôå èá óð�óåé ç �äéá óôçí ðñïóãå�ùóç, å�ôå èá óïõ îçëþóåé �áé ôçí ìýôç.




 

[Dimitris Kriti]

�åéå Ãéáííç åéóïõí �áôáôïðéóôé�ïôáôïò, åõ÷áñéóôù. Ôï blizzard åðéëå÷ôé�å á�ñéâùò ãéá áõôï ôï ëïãï äçëáäç ãéá åéóáãùãç óôá hotliners. Ãéá íá ìçí ôóá�éóù ìå ôçí ìéá åíá ìïíôåëï áðï fibergglas ðñïôéìçóá ôï elapor ðïõ åðéó�åõáæåôáé åõ�ïëá. �í ôá ðáù �áëá, èá ðáù áñãïôåñá óå åíá ðïéï �áëï ìïíôåëï.
�óï ãéá ôçí áíáäéðëïõìåíç åëé�á, ôçí åéíáé óôï äñïìï, �áé ìïëéò åñèåé èá �áíù äï�éìç.
�éá åñùôçóç á�ïìá: ôåëé�á, ðïõ ðñåðåé íá å�ôñåøù ôá ailerons ùóôå íá åëáôùèåé ç ôá÷õôçôá �áôá ôçí öáóç ôçò ðñïóãéùóçò, ðáíù 'ç' �áôù;

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�éá åñùôçóç á�ïìá: ôåëé�á, ðïõ ðñåðåé íá å�ôñåøù ôá ailerons ùóôå íá åëáôùèåé ç ôá÷õôçôá �áôá ôçí öáóç ôçò ðñïóãéùóçò, ðáíù 'ç' �áôù;

�÷ Äçì�ôñç ... äåí ðñïó�÷åéò óôçí ðáñ�äïóç.

Ùò áåñüöñåíá å�ôñ�ðïíôáé �Ñ�Ó Å���Ù �áé è�ëïõí �áé ì�îç down elevator ãéá áíôéóô�èìéóìá.