Aeromodelling GR

èá çèåëá íá ñùôçóù ôé á�ñéâùò ìðïñïõìå íá �áíïõìå ìå åíá brushless ìïôåñ; åéíáé �áôé áíôéóôïé÷ï ôùí ìïôåñ ðïõ å÷åé ç GWS; (áò ðïõìå ôï 400D)
äåí ôï å÷ù øáîåé ðïëõ á�ïìç ôï èåìá áëëá áí �áôáëáâá óùóôá ìðïñù íá âãáëù åíá ìïôåñ áðï �áðïéï ðáëéï cdrom �áé íá ôï âáëù óôï áåñïðëáíï ìïõ; áí ôï �áíù ôé �áëõôåñï èá å÷ù; åééíáé ðéï ãñçãïñï, áíôå÷åé ðïëõ, åéíáé ðïëõ åëáöñõ, äåí æåóôåíåôáé;

ìðïñåé �áðïéïò íá ìïõ õðïäåéîåé �áðïéïí �áëï ïäçãï ãéá ôï èåìá;

ìáäáù çäç åíá ðáëéï cdrom  :D :D :D

�í �áé äåí �÷åé éäéá�ôåñá ãéá brushless äåò ôï British Electric Flyer Association (BEFA) Beginner's Guide  http://www.befa.org.uk/data-files/guide.pdf (http://www.befa.org.uk/data-files/guide.pdf).

Ôá brushless ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýíôáé üðùò �áé ôá óõìâáôé��, ìå � ÷ùñ�ò reduction �áé ôá �ýñéá ÷áñá�ôçñéóôé�� ôïõò å�íáé ç �áëýôåñç áðüäïóç ãéá ôï ñåýìá ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéå�ôáé �áé ç áíôï÷� ôïõò ëüãù ìåéùì�íùí ôñéâþí. �é åôáéñå�åò ðïëë�ò öïñ�ò ä�íïõí áíôéóôïé÷�á ãéá ôá ìïô�ñ ôïõò ìå óõìâáôé��. Óõí�èùò ìå ôçí �äéá ��óá (� óåéñ� ó÷åä�áóçò) âë�ðïõìå ìïíô�ëá ìå ðåñéóüôåñç ñïð� � ðåñéóóüôåñåò óôñïö�ò áí� V.

Ôá Brushless áðï CDROM áí��ïõí óôá outrunners, üðïõ ï �îïíáò å�íáé �áèçëùì�íïò óôï åîùôåñé�ü ðïõ �÷åé ôïõò ìáãí�ôåò �áé ðåñéóôñ�öåôáé ìáæ� ôïõ, åíù ôï �åíôñé�ü ìå ôéò ðåñéåë�îåéò óôçñ�æåôáé óôï ó��öïò. Ôá outrunners �÷ïõí ìåã�ëç åî�ëéîç ôá ôåëåõôá�á ÷ñüíéá.

Ôï ìüíï ìåéïí��ôçìá ðïõ �÷ïõí ôá brushless å�íáé ôï áñ�åô� ìåãáëýôåñï �üóôïò ìïô�ñ-åëåã�ô� �áé ôá ìïíô�ëá ìå ðåñéóóüôåñï áðü �íá �éíçô�ñá.

Äåí Γ­Γ―Γ¬Γ�æù üôé áîΓ�æåé ôïí Γ�üðï Γ­Γ΅ áó÷ïëçèåΓ�Γ² ìå ðáëéΓ� CD ROM, Γ¥Γ�ôüò áí Γ¨Γ�ëåéò Γ�Γ�ôé éäéáΓ�ôåñï Γ³Γ¥ indoor. Γ�ãüñáóå Γ�áëýôåñá Γ�Γ­Γ΅ öèçíü Γ�éíΓ�æéΓ�Γ― áðü ôïí Γ�þóôá Γ�áðáäüðïõëï  (http://www.greekwings.gr/HMS%20II/HomePage.htm) ìå ôïí åëåãΓ�Γ΄Γ� ôïõ Γ³Γ¥ ðñïóöïñΓ�, Γ°Γ�Γ­Γ¥ Γ�áëΓ� Γ�áé Γ�Γ·Γ―ΓµΓ­ Γ�ñéóôç Γ³Γ·Γ�Γ³Γ§ ôéìΓ�Γ²/áðüäïóç. Ãéá ìåãáëýôåñç Γ�ëéΓ�Γ΅ Γ�÷åé Γ�áé Γ�Γ­Γ΅ ìå ìåΓ�ΓΉΓ³Γ§ 1:5,33. Äåò Γ�áé ôá Γ�ëëá Γ�áôáóôΓ�ìáôá, Γ�Γ³ΓΉΓ² ΓµΓ°Γ�ñ÷åé Γ�Γ�ôé áíôáãùíéóôéΓ�ΓΌ.

Ãéá ôï ìïôåñ��é �áé ôïí åëåã�ô� ðïõ óïõ ë�ù èá äåéò óôïé÷å�á óôï

Õð�ñ÷ïõí �áé �ëëá ìïíô�ëá (BP 08, BP 12) http://www.balsapr.com/catalog/motors/BPBrushless.asp ãéá ìåãáëýôåñåò ðñïð�ëëåò, �óùò �ñèïõí óýíôïìá �áé óôçí Åëë�äá.

Ôá ìïôåñ��éá - ESC áõô� �÷ïõí ��íåé ð�ôáãï óôçí �ìåñé��
24 dollar brushless motor 49 dollars with speed control! (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309053), http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309053, ôï áñ÷é�ü thread, �ëåéóôü ðéá ãéá í�á ìçíýìáôá.
$24 brushless motor - $49 with speed control part II (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3509311), http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3509311, 2ï ì�ñïò üðïõ óõíå÷�æåôáé ç óõæ�ôçóç.

Óôá ðáñáð�íù threads èá âñåéò �áé áñ�åô� áîéüëïãá ìçíýìáôá. �ðïñå�ò íá ðá�îåéò ìå ôéò ðåñéåë�îåéò, èá âñåéò óôïé÷å�á �áé èá óïõ �ïóô�óåé öèçíüôåñá �óùò áðü �íá �éô CD ROM.

�áé ôá äýï öèçí� ìïô�ñ ðïõ óïõ áíáö�ñù �÷ïõí â�óç ãéá äï�ü 10×10mm ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéïýí ôá ìïíô�ëá ôçò GWS �áé ìðïñïýí íá áíôé�áôáóô�óïõí ïðïéïä�ðïôå ìïô�ñ GWS EPS 100, 300, 350, 400 ìå �áô�ëëçëï óõíäõáóìü �ëé�áò - ìðáôáñ�áò �áé èá �÷åéò ðåñéóóüôåñç éó÷ý.

Öõóé�� äåí å�íáé ç ìüíç �áé ó�ãïõñá ü÷é ç �áëýôåñç ëýóç áëë� äýó�ïëá èá âñåéò ��ôé �áëýôåñï óå ó÷�óç áðüäïóçò/ôéì� (value for money) ó' áõô� ôçí �áôçãïñ�á.

Ãåé� óáò �áéäé�  :smile:
×á�ñïìáé orck ðïõ áíá�áëýðôåéò óéã�-óéã� ôïí �üóìï ôùí Öèçíþí Brushless üðùò üëïé ìáò . �é ìåôáôñïð�ò áðï ôá ìïô�ñ ôùí CD-Roms 'ðáô�íå' óå ì�á ðïëý �áë� áíáëïã�á Ôéì�ò-�ðüäïóçò �áé åðéô�ëïõò ìðïñå� �áé ï '�ðëüò' �ïóì��çò íá áðïëáýóåé ÷ùñ�ò ��ñâïõíá ìç÷áí�ò .
�á óõìöùí�óù ìå ôïí �þóôá ðùò ï �áðáäüðïõëïò �÷åé üíôùò �áë�ò ëýóåéò . �áé ï Ñ�ìðåñ�ïí íïì�æù .
¼ðùò ðïëý óùóô� åðéóçìá�íåôáé , å�íáé ë�ãï áñã� ,îáí�, ãéá ôçí ìé�ñ� ìáò �åñïìïíôåëéóôé�� ÷þñá íá áíá�áëýøïõìå ôïí Ôñï÷ü ...
×éëé�äåò ðåéñ�ìáôá �÷ïõí ã�íåé �äç �áé üëïé ïé ðéèáíï� óõíäõáóìï� �÷ïõí äï�éìáóôå�  (ôïõë�÷éóôïí å�å�íïé ðïõ åìå�ò èá ïíåéñåõôïýìå áýñéï ) ...  :-[
Ãé'áõôü áãüñáóå ��ôé �ôïéìï , ðïõ äïõëåýåé , ãéá íá ì�èåéò �áé ôçí áñ÷� ëåéôïõñã�áò ôïõ óùóô� .
Äçëáä� , ìåôáîý ìáò, ç èåùñ�á å�íáé ðáìð�ëåç . ¼ëá ôá ìïô�ñ Åíáëëáóóïì�íïõ ñåýìáôïò �ôóé äïõëåýïõí ...  ;)
¼ôáí ôá äï�éì�óåéò ì�ëëïí Ä�í èá îáíáãõñ�óåéò óôá '�ðë�' ... �å ôéò ôéì�ò �áé ôùí Åëåã�ôþí Ôá÷ýôçôáò ðë�ïí ...  :)
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�åñé��ò öùôü áðï ôïí ôñüðï óô�ñéîçò åíüò Öèçíïý CD-Rom ð�íù óå ìåéùô�ñá GWS ðïõ á�ïëïýèçóá ... 
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