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Ãåéá óáò öéëïé áåñïìïíôåëéóôåò �áé åñáóôåò ôùí áåñïðëáíùí ôïõ â ðáã�ïóìéïõ.
�íïéãù åíá èåìá óõæçôçóçò ìå ó�ïðï ôçí ðáñïõóéáóç,�áôáó�åõç,�áé ãåíé�á ïôé ðëçñïöïñéåò õðáñ÷ïõí ó÷åôé�á ìå áõôï ôï èåìá,åôóé ùóôå íá ãíùñéóôïõìå, �áé íá ìáèïõìå áðï ôïõò åìðåéñïõò �áôáó�åõáóôåò ïôé ÷ñåéáæåôáé ãéá åíá scale ìïíôåëï.

�éóôåõù ðùò õðáñ÷ïõí áñ�åôïé íåïé áåñïìïíôåëéóôåò [ïðùò åãù] ðïõ åíäéáöåñïíôáé íá ìðïõí óéãá óéãá óôçí äéáäé�áóéá �áôáó�åõçò åíïò scale ìïíôåëïõ áëëá ðáó÷ïõí áðï ðëçñïöïñéåò �áé óõìâïõëåò .�ðùò, ðùò ìðïñåé íá îå�éíçóç �áíåéò ? Åéíáé óùóôï íá îå�éíçóåéò íá ÷ôéóåéò åíá ìïíôåëï åíù á�ïìá äåí åìáèåò íá ðåôáò ? Å÷åé ìåãáëç äéáöïñá �áôáó�åõçò åíá áðëï å�ðáéäåõôé�ï áðï åíá scale ?

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�ôé áðïñéá å÷åéò ç ïðïéá âïçèåéá ÷ñåéáóôåéò åéìáé óôç äéáèåóç óïõ. ðáñïôé ç �áôáó�åõç �áé ç ðôçóç åéíáé äåìåíá ìåôáîõ ôïõò óáí áåñïìïíôåëéóôé�ç éäåá äåí áðï�ëåéåé ôï åíá ôáëëï óôï íá ðñïçãçèïõí.

�é �áôáó�åõåò scale å÷ïõí ìåãáëï åõñïò äõó�ïëéáò áðï åõ�ïëåò ïóï åíá å�ðáéäåõôé�ï ìå÷ñé å�åé ðïõ öôáíåé ç öáíôáóéá óïõ ôá ÷ñçìáôá ï ÷ñïíïò �áé ç é�áíïôçôá �áé ç õðïìïíç.

âáóé�ï ïìùò åéíáé íá óáñåóåé ç �áôáó�åõç �áé ç éäåá íá äçìéïõñãçóåéò åíá ðéóôï áíôéãñáöï ïóï ðéï �ïíôá óôï ðñáãìáôé�ï ðïõ íá ðåôáåé �éïëáò ïðùò ôï ðñïôïôõðï.

ôï åéäïò ôùí Γ�áôáóΓ�åõáóôùí scale ôåéíåé ðñïò åîáöáíéóç  ìå ôçí õðåñðñïóöïñá ôùí ARF ìïíôåëùí  ïìùò Γ�áèå Γ�áéíïõñãéïò ìå äéáèåóç åéíáé åõðñïóäåΓ�ôïò Γ�áé Γ§ åìðåéñéá ôïõëá÷éóôïí Γ§ äéΓ�Γ§ ìïõ óôç äéáèåóç ôïõ.

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Γ―Γ© Γ�ëéìáΓ�åò  äåí åéíáé ôõðïðïéçìåíåò ðñïΓ�åéìåíïõ ãéá ìéá éäéïΓ�áôáóΓ�åõç. óõíçèéæåôáé ïìùò Γ­Γ΅ ôá ôá Γ�áôáôáóïõìå ãéá ëïãïõò åõΓ�ïëéáò óôçí ðëçóéåóôåñç Γ�ëéìáΓ�Γ΅  ð÷ 1/3 1/4 1/5 Γ�ëð, Γ§ åðéëïãç áíçΓ�åé óôïí ó÷åäéáóôç Γ�áôáóΓ�åõáóôç áíáëïãá ôçí ðñïôéìçóç ôïõ.
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�áëçóðåñá �áé ðáëé. Óçìåñá ç ìåñá ðåñáóå øá÷íïíôáò óôçí �áôáóôçìáôá ãéá íá ðáñù ìéá åé�ïíá ãéá ôï ôé õðáñ÷åé óôçí áãïñá óå ïôé áöïñá ôá èåìáôá ôïõ â/ðáã�ïóìéïõ. �íôùò õðáñ÷åé ìéá áñ�åôá �áëç ã�áìá ìïíôåëùí óå ARF ôá ðåñéóóïôåñá ìå åðïîåé�ç áôñá�ôï �áé ðôåñõãåò áðï îõëï.

�ðùò ìå åíçìåñùóáí ôåôïéïõ åéäïõ ìïíôåëá áðáéôïõí ìé�ñï ó÷åôé�á åîïðëéóìï �áé ãõñù óôéò 20 ùñåò äïõëåéáò ìïíï ôï ó�áöïò .

Óå ôåëåéùò îõëéíá ìïíôåëá ç ã�áìá åéíáé ðïëõ ìé�ñïôåñç �áé äåí õðáñ÷ïõí ðïëëåò åðéëïãåò. Åðéóçò äåí åéìáé óéãïõñïò åáí ìðïñïõí íá å÷ïõí ôçí ëåðôïìåñåéá åíïò ðñáãìáôé�ïõ scale ìïíôåëïõ .

�ëá áõôá âåâáéá óôçí åëëçíé�ç áãïñá .�ïõ íïìéæù �áëõðôïõí �áé ôçí áãïñá ôïõ åîùôåñé�ïõ.

Ãéá íá ìðåéò óôçí äéáäé�áóéá �áôáó�åõçò åíïò scale ìïíôåëïõ óå ìïñöç �éô ð÷ C-47 DACOTA,áðáéôåéôáé ãíùóåéò ôïõ áåñïó�áöïõò ðïõ ðñï�åéôáé íá �áôáó�åõáóåéò ,åíáò ó÷åôé�á ìåãáëïò ÷ùñïò ,�áðïéåò ãíùóåéò îõëïõñãé�çò ,�áé åíáí ìåôñéï åîïðëéóìï.

Åáí èåëåé íá �áôáó�åõáóç �áðïéïò åíá ìïíôåëï ðïõ äåí äéáôéèåôáé óôçí áãïñá ð÷ NORATLAS, ôïôå ôá ðñáãìáôá äõó�ïëåõïõí áöáíôáóôá, äéïôé ðñåðåé íá ðåñáóç óôï óôáäéï ôéò éäéï�áôáó�åõçò [óõëëïãç ðëçñïöïñéùí,ó÷åäéá ðñáãìáôé�ïõ áåñïó�áöïõò,óïõðåñ åîïðëéóìåíï åñãáóôçñéï �áé ðïëëá áëëá] �õôåò åéíáé �áôáó�åõåò ðïõ åáí äåí ðåñáóåéò ðñùôá áðï ôçí äéáäé�áóéá åíïò �éô ìïíôåëïõ åéíáé ôñïìåñá äõó�ïëï.

Γ�íåöåñá äõï ìïíôåëá áåñïóΓ�áöùí ðïõ âñéóΓ�ïíôáé óôï áåñïäñïìéï ÓÅÄÅÓ èåó/Γ­Γ©Γ�Γ§, ôï C-47 ðåôáåé ôáΓ�ôéΓ�Γ΅ ãõñù áðï ôï áåñïäñïìéï, Γ…Γ­ΓΉ ôï NORATLAS ðåñéìåíåé Γ³Γ¥ ìéá ãùíéá Γ�áñôåñéΓ�Γ΅ Γ�áðïéïí Γ­Γ΅ ôï óõíôçñçóç, Γ�áé Γ­Γ΅ ôïõ äùóåé ôçí áîéá ðïõ ðñåðåé, äéïôé óõìöùíá ìå ðëçñïöïñéåò  ðñåðåé Γ­Γ΅ åéíáé åíá áðï ôá áåñïóΓ�áöç ðïõ ðåôáîáí Γ¥Γ�åéíï ôï ìïéñáéï âñáäõ ãéá ôçí Γ�Γ•Γ�Γ‘Γ�.

Õ.à Äåí óõìöùíåéôå ïôé èá çôáí �áëï èåìá ç �áôáó�åõç �áé ç ðôçóç ôùí äõï áõôùí áåñïó�áöùí óáí ìïíôåëá ?
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óõìöùíù ïôé ÷ñåéáæåôáé ç åìðåéñéá �áðïéïõ(ùí) �éô ðñéí îå�éíçóåéò �áôé äõó�ïëï äé�ï óïõ, ôï óïõðåñ åñãáóôçñéï ïìùò ï÷é ìå ôç ìéá, ïëá ðáéñíïõí ôï ÷ñïíï ôïõò �áé âåëôéùíïíôáé ìáæé ìå ôçí åìðåéñéá �áé ôéò äõíáôïôçôåò.

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×ñçóéìïðïéïõíôáé ïëá ôá õëéΓ�Γ΅ Γ³Γ¥ óõíäõáóìïõò, îõëåéá. óõíèåôéΓ�Γ΅ õëéΓ�Γ΅  ðëáóôéΓ�Γ―  ìåôáëëï Γ�ëð áíáëïãá ôéó áíáãΓ�åò Γ�áé ôïí ôõðï.

Γ―Γ© åðåíäõóåéò ìðïñåé Γ­Γ΅ åéíáé ÷áñôé, õöáóìá, öéëì ,óõíèåôéΓ�Γ΅ õëéΓ�Γ΅  åéôå áõôïõóéá åéôå ìå ðåñáéôåñù åðåîåñãáóéá( öéíéñéóìá âáøéìï Γ�ëð)

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Ãéá Γ³Γ¥ üëïõò .Ôï Γ¨Γ�ìá scale WWII Γ¥Γ�íáé ôüóï ìåãΓ�ëï ΓΌΓ³Γ― Γ�áé ôá áåñïðëΓ�Γ­Γ΅ ðïõ ðåôïýóáí Γ�áé äïΓ�éìΓ�óôéΓ�áí Γ¥Γ�åéíç ôçí åðï÷Γ� áðü üëåò ôéò ðëåõñΓ�Γ². Ôï scale áåñïðëΓ�Γ­Γ― ôïõ WWII óáí áåñïìïíôåëéóìüò Γ�áôá ôçí ãíþìç ìïõ ÷ñåéΓ�æåôáé Γ�áé ôïí ìïíôåëéóìü (óôáôéΓ�ΓΌ) . Γ�Γ© ëüãïé Γ¥Γ�íáé áðëïΓ� : ðùò Γ¥Γ�íáé äõíáôüí Γ­Γ΅ ΓΈΓ�÷íïõìáé ãéá áåñïðëΓ�Γ­Γ― üôáí Γ�÷ïõìáé ìåñéΓ�Γ� Γ� ïëéΓ�Γ� Γ�ãíïéá ðüôå Γ°Γ�ôáîå äõíáôüôçôåò áöïõò Γ�áé ôï óçìáíôéΓ�üôåñï ôå÷íéΓ�Γ� ÷áñáΓ�ôçñéóôéΓ�Γ� Γ�áé éäéåôåñüôçôåò. Γ‡ áãïñΓ� åíüò ìïíôΓ�ëïõ Γ�áé ðåñéóóüôåñï Γ§ Γ�áôáóΓ�åõΓ� áðáéôåΓ� ãíþóç Γ�áé ìåëΓ�ôç ôïõ áöïõò Γ³Γ¥ óçìåΓ�Γ― áãΓ�ðçò Γ�áé åîΓ�ñôçóçò.  ;) :idiot2: :idiot2:.
×ñåéΓ�æåôáé Γ·Γ±ΓΌΓ­Γ―Γ² Γ�áé óôçí ðåñΓ�ðôùóç ôùí Γ�Γ�Γ΄ Γ«Γ�ãç åìðåéñåΓ�Γ΅, äåí óçæçôΓ�ìáé ãéá scrach Γ�áôáóΓ�åõΓ� ðïõ ÷ñåéΓ�æåôáé ðïëëΓ� ðåñçóóüôåñá. Ãéá ðáñΓ�äåéãìá Γ¥Γ�Γ·Γ΅ Γ�Γ­Γ΅ Me - 109 ìå Γ¥Γ�Γ°Γ�ôáóìá 1,10 Γ¬ (áðü Γ³Γ·Γ�äéï) ìåôΓ� ôçí Γ�áôáóôñïöΓ� ôïõ  :'( :'( :'( Γ³Γ¥ áãþíåò scale óôï Âüëï å÷ù ó÷åäüí åôïéìï åíá ìåãáëΓ�ôåñï . Ôñåëüò ìå ôï Γ�Γ¥-109 ïðüôå gliderguider ãéá ôï Γ³Γ·Γ�äéï Γ³Γ¥ áíáìïíΓ�  :D :D :thumbs up: :thumbs up: :thumbs up:

�ïõìð�ñå ìïõ åãþ ìå focke wolf

K �áíïõóá�á�ç äåí èá áñ÷éóù ôéò åðåõöçìéåò ãéá ôéò �áôáó�åõåò óáò. Å÷ù íá ðù ïìùò ïôé åõåëðéóôù ç äïõëåéá óáò íá å�ôåèåé �áðïôå óå áíáëïãï ìïõóåéï ãéá ôéò åðïìåíåò ãåíéåò.

Öéëïé áåñïìïíôåëéóôåò ioannis, n/joi, sot, ðåñéìåíù åãù �áé ïé äå�áäåò åðéó�åðôåò áõôçò ôçò óõæçôçóçò íá ìáò ðåñéãñáøåôå ôé ìïíôåëá å÷åôå öôéáîåé óå ôé �ëéìá�á, ìå ôé �éíçôçñá ,ôé õëé�á �áé ÷ñïíï �áôáó�åõçò, åáí ç áôñá�ôïò çôáí áðï åðïîåéäé�ï õëé�ï ç îõëï, �áé ãåíé�á ïôé áëëï èá ìðïñïõóáìå íá ìáèïõìå, ãéá íá ðåñáóïõìå �áé åìåéò �áðïôå óå áõôçí ôçí äéáäé�áóéá.

Åìðëïõôéæïíôáò ôçí óõæçôçóç ìå ôå÷íé�åò �áôáó�åõùí èá äçìéïõñãçèåé ìéá âéâëéïèç�ç ðëçñïöïñéùí �áé èá ìåéíç ãéá ðáíôá.
 
Å�ôåíåéò éóôïñé�åò ðëçñïöïñéåò ãéá ôá áåñïðëáíá ôïõ â/ðáã�ïóìéïõ äåí íïìéæù ïôé ÷ñåéáæïíôáé ìåóá óôçí óõæçôçóç äéïôé ãéá íá èåëåé �áðïéïò íá áó÷ïëçèåé ìå áõôïõ ôïõ ôõðïõ ôá ìïíôåëá ,óéãïõñá èá å÷åé åñéóìáôá áðï �áðïõ.

�ò ðïõìå ïôé îåñåé ï �áèåíáò ìáò ÷ùñéò äéóôáãìï, �áé åáí �áíïõìå �áé �áíåíá ëáèïò, ïé åìðåéñïôåñïé èá åéíáé ðáíôá óôï ðëåõñï ìáò.

                                                                                                 Γ„Γ‡Γ�ÇÔÑÇÓ

Greg.

Γ�ΓµΓ΄Γ� ôç óôéãìΓ�, ΓΆΓ±Γ�Γ³Γ�åôáé óôá Γ�áëýôåñá Γ·Γ�ñéá.  :thumbs up:

�öå�ëù íá ïìïëïã�óù, ðþò áõôü ôï áåñïðë�íï å�íáé ä�ó�áëïò óå ðïëë� ðñ�ãìáôá_ôå÷íé��ò.

Ä�í �÷åé ðåô�îåé, áðï ôüôå.

Öéëå tolias ñùôáò áí åéìáé øçìåíïò ? �áéãïìáé :D :D :D
Ôùñá ìå ôçí ðñïôïâïõëéá ôïõ � �áíïõóá�á�ç ,óéãïõñá ïëá èá ìïõ åéíáé ðéï åõ�ïëá, äéïôé äåí õðáñ÷åé ðïõèåíá óõëëïãç ðëçñïöïñéùí ãéá �áôáó�åõåò ôåôïéïõ åéäïõò. �á ðåñéìåíù ïóï ÷ñïíï ÷ñåéáóôåé, áëëá èá �áíù �áëç äïõëåéá öáíôáæïìáé!!!!! ;)


Canadair  :D :D ðù!ðù!ðù äéΓ�éíçôçñéï  :thumbs up: :thumbs up: :thumbs up: ìå ôñåëáíåò. Äåí ìðïñù Γ­Γ΅ Γ³Γ¥ âïçèçóù,áëëá Γ―Γ³Γ― Γ�áéñï ôï öôéá÷íåéò èá Γ³Γ―Γµ óôåëíù åõ÷åò Γ�áé èåôéΓ�Γ§ Γ³Γ�åøç,ãéá Γ­Γ΅ ðáíå ïëá Γ�áëá. Γ�áé ìïëéò ôï ôåëåéùóåéò èá ôï ãéïñôáóïõìå ìå óáìðáíéá :beer: :beer: :beer:
                                                                              ôá ëåìå mastoras

Âáóé�á áõôç ôç óôéãìç øá÷íù ó÷åäéá,áëëá èåëù íá åíáé ðëçñùò ëåéôïõñãé�ï!!
Å÷ù âñåé �áðïéá ó÷åäéá �áé ôá ìåëåôáù óôï pc!Óå ãåíé�åò ãñáììåò åéíáé åõ�ïëï íá öôéá÷ôåé ôï ìïíôåëëï áëëá å÷ù åíôùðéóåé óçìåéá ðïõ èåëïõí éäéáéôåñç ðñïóï÷ç..
Ôåôïéá åéíáé:ôá áíáóõñïìåíá ðéóù(ðñïóðáèù íá �áôáëáâù á�ïìá ðùò äïõëåõïõí âëåðïíôáò ôï ó÷åäéï :D :D),ôá Flaps,�áé èåëù íá �áíù ìéá ðñïóèç�ç ãéá íá ðáéñíåé íåñï �áé íá ôï ñé÷íåé(ìåãáëï ìðåñäåìá) :o :o
Ôåëïò èåëù íá ôï �áíù ðïëõ åëáöñõ ùóôå íá ðåôáåé ìå ðïëõ ìé�ñç ôá÷õôçôá(ãéá íá åéíáé ñåáëéóôé�ï):Åéäá åíá âéíôåï �áé åíá canadair ðåôáãå ôïóï ãñçãïñá ïóï åíá ôæåô ó÷åäïí..Çôáí ÷áëéá :buck2: :buck2: :buck2: :( :(
Ôï èåìá åéíáé íá áðïöáóéóù íá ôï öôéáîù ãéáôé åéíáé ðïëõ äõó�ïëï åã÷åéñçìá �áé áí ôï áðïöáóéóù èåëù íá åéíáé áðëá ÔÅËÅÉ� 8)smiley 8)smiley 8)smiley

Âáóé�á �áëçóðåñá!!!
�ëçñïöïñéåò ãéá ôá ó÷åäéá. �ùò âñéó�åé �áíåéò ?�áíå ÷åñé ÷åñé ç õðáñ÷åé ôïðïò ðùëçóçò ? �ïéá ç áîéá ? �áé åáí õðáñ÷ïõí ó÷åäéá óôá åëëçíé�á.

�áé åðéóçò óå ôé �ïóôïò ðåñéðïõ èá áíåñèåé ç ðñïâëåðïìåíç �áôáó�åõç ? Ç äåí ìðïñåé íá õðïëïãéóôåé ?

                                                                             mastoras

Åãù ôá âñç�á óôï internet!�õôï http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:vqV-HzR7nJAJ:bernard.dumas.chez-alice.fr/+canadair+cl+215&hl=el&gl=gr&ct=clnk&cd=4 å÷ù �áé èá ôï å�ôõðùóù..
�í øáîåéò óôï internet ìðïñåéò íá áãïñáóåéò ãéá ðïëëá ìïíôåëëá!!Åðéóçò ðïëëá îåíá ðåñéïäé�á äéíïõí �áé åíá ó÷åäéï ìáæé :thumbs up: :thumbs up:
�ïóôïò??Äåí îåñù...�åëåé ðïëõ îõëåéá �áé ðïëõ �ïëëá ,ðñáãìá ðïõ äåí ìðïñåé íá õðïëïãéóôåé..Ôé ìç÷áíåò,ôé ìðïõ�áëåò �áé ôé óåñâï èá ÷ñçóéìïðïéçèïõí ôá âëåðåéò óôï ìåëëïí �áôá ôçí �áôáó�åõç!!�å�éíáò �áé âëåðåéò..... :P :P

to canadair ãéá Γ­Γ΅ ðåôáåé ñåáëéóôéΓ�Γ΅ ðñåðåé  áíáãáóôéΓ�Γ΅  Γ­Γ΅ ãéíåé Γ³Γ¥ ìåãåèïò giant scale  ùóôå Γ­Γ΅ ìåéùèåé äñáóôéΓ�Γ΅ Γ― ðôåñõãéΓ�Γ―Γ² öïñôïò áñá Γ�áé Γ§ ôá÷õôçôá .
ç áóöáëåóôåñç ìïñöç äé�éíçôéñéïõ åéíáé ç çëå�ôñé�ç �áé åéíáé åöé�ôç ðëåïí óå ïðïéïäçðïôå ìåãåèïò ìå ôï ðëåïíå�ôçìá ôçò åëáöñéáò �áôáó�åõçò ìéáò �áé äåí ÷ñåéáæåôáé éäéáéôåñç åíéó÷õóç ãéá �ñáäáóìïõò �éíçôçñùí ðáñá ìïíï ãéá áåñïäõíáìé�á öïñôéá .
áíáóõñïìåíá áõôïõ ôïõ ôõðïõ �áôáó�åõáæïíôáé custom áðï Robart, Unitracts ,�áé áëëç ìéá åôáéñåéá óôéò Ç�� ðïõ äåí ôç èõìáìáé áõôç ôç óôéãìç.
Γ�áíôùò ðñéí îåΓ�éíçóåéò Γ­Γ΅ Γ�áôáóΓ�åõáæåéò åíá ôåôïéï project  Γ�áëï åéíáé Γ�áé Γ­Γ΅ å÷åéò Γ�áôáëçîåé óôï ðùò ôï èåëåéò ôé õëéΓ�Γ΅ áðáéôïõíôáé áëëá Γ�áé Γ­Γ΅ ôá å÷åéò óõãåíôñùóåé  ãéáôé áí áðïöáóéæåéò ïðùò èá ðñï÷ùñáò ìáëëïí èá äõóΓ�ïëåøåéò ôçí õëïðïéçóç ôïõ.

Ãé'áõôï äåí îå�éíáù á�ïìá ôçí �áôáó�åõç!!�åëåôáù �áé èá �áôáëçîù óå áðïöáóç óéãá óéãá :thumbs up: :thumbs up:

Greg..ôï åñãáëåé�ï óïõ å�íáé �ôïéìï.

¢íôå ãéáôΓ� ôï æá÷áñþíïõí ðïëëïΓ�.  ::)

Ôá scale ð�íôá �ôáí ì�óá óô�í �áñäé� ìïõ.

�áñáè�ôù öùôü áðï ôï piper cub, 3è�óç óå scale áãþíåò óôá óð�ôá.

Γ�e-109G 120 size.
epoxy fuselage-foam wings.

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ìåôá áðï 8 ÷ñïíéá áíáìïíçò  áò  áðïæçìéùèù ôïõëá÷éóôïí ìå ôçí åîáéñåôéΓ�Γ§ ðïéïôçôá ôçò áôñáΓ�ôïõ.

�áëëïí èá âãåé áðï ôï õðïóôåãï ðáñåá ìå ôï LA7 áí äåí ìå ðåôáîïõí åîù åìåíá ðñùôá áð ôï óðéôé.

Ó�åöôïìïõíá ìáëéóôá ïôáí ôï ôåëåéùóù (ôï �e) íá óôï öåñù óôá ×áíéá ãéá âáøéìï ìéáò �áé ìå ôïõò áåñïãñáöïõò ôá ðáò �áëá( ôé çèåëåò �áé ìéëáãåò?)

Γ�áé ìéëùíôáò ðñï÷ôåò Γ―Γ© ãåñïíôåò  ñéîáìå Γ�áé ôçí éäåá Γ­Γ΅ óôñéìùîù ìéá RCV120  Γ¥Γ�åé ìåóá ,ðïõ èá ãõñíáåé Γ�áé scale 3blade prop.

¢×.. Ãñçãüñç, �ëá ìå ôï �áëü óôá ×áíé� �áé ôï öôé�÷íïõìå.
ΒΌΓ³Γ― áöïñΓ� ôçí RCV120 Γ¤Γ�Γ­ ôï óõæçôþ, Γ§ Γ�áëýôåñç åðéëïãΓ� ãéáõôü ôï ìïíôΓ�ëï.  :thumbs up:

Γ�Γ―Γµ Γ«Γ�ôå, Γ�Γ·ΓΉ áñΓ�Γ³Γ�åéá óôá scale ìå ðñïôΓ�ìçóç óôá ãåñìáíéΓ�Γ� Γ΅ Γ�áé ΓΆ ðáãΓ�Γ―Γ³Γ¬Γ�Γ―Γµ ðïëΓ�ìïõ.Γ�Γ·ΓΉ Γ�Γ�íåé ¼ ôñéðëΓ�Γ­Γ―, Γ�Γ­Γ΅ 75Γ�Γ±Γ©  focke wolf,  Γ°Γ�Γ±Γ΅ Γ�Γ­Γ΅ Γ�ôïéìï 45Γ�Γ±Γ©, ðïý ðåôΓ�ΓΉ ôþñá,
 Γ�ôáëïôΓ�Γ«,  Γ�ïãüô   Γ³Γ΄Γ�Γ�,  Γ�Γ�Γ°,  2ΓΌ Γ�Γ�Γ°, Γ�áé ëåéðΓ� óáíΓ�äéá ìüíï ãéá ôï Γ°Γ�ôáãìá.
Γ�õôü ðïõ Γ�Γ·ΓΉ ðáñáôçñΓ�óåé ôüóá ÷ñüíéá Γ¥Γ�íáé üôé Γ§ ðñïóãåΓ�ΓΉΓ³Γ§ åðéâΓ�ëåôáé ìå Γ�éíçôçñá åðåéäΓ� Γ³Γ°Γ�íéá ôá ðïëåìéΓ�Γ� óõã÷ùñïõí Γ«Γ�èç, óôï äå 75áñé  Γ§ Γ·Γ±Γ�Γ³Γ§ öëΓ�ðò
��áíå ôçí ðñïóãå�ùóç åîáéñåôé��. Ëüãù äå, üôé �ôáí ÷ôéóôü ìïõ åð�ôñåøå, ôï ö�ãùìá ôïõ ÷å�ëïõò ðñïóâïë�ò óôï öôåñü ðáñáð�íù, �áé üóï åãù íüìéæá, �ôóé å�÷å ñåáëéóôé�ç ôá÷õôçôá óôïí á�ñá, áíô�èåôá ìå ôï �ôïéìï 45áñé, ðïõ ó��öôïìáé ìåô� áðü åðéó�åõ� ðïõ ôïõ ��áíá, �í óõíå÷�æåé íá ðåô�åé é�áíïðïéçôé�� íá ðñïóè�óù
Γ�Γ°Γ�ëóá óôï öôåñü Γ� Γ­Γ΅ ôïõ Γ¶Γ�ΓΉ ôï Γ·Γ¥Γ�ëïò ðñïóâïëΓ�Γ², ãéá Γ­Γ΅ ôïõ Γ�áôåâΓ�Γ³ΓΉ ôçí ôá÷ýôçôá, ìéá Γ�áé áõôü ôï Γ�üëðï ôï Γ�Γ�íïõìå  áðü ôï 88 Γ�áé ëåéôïõñãåΓ� ðåñΓ�öçìá.

¢ñá ü÷é ôóéã�ïõíé�ò óôçí ðïéüôçôá �áõó�ìïõ á�üìá �áé óôá 45�ñéá, ëåéôïõñãé�� ìç÷áí� åëåãì�íç óôï ÅÄ�Ö�Ó, ö�ãùìá ÷å�ëïõò ðñïóâïë�ò ðáñáð�íù, öë�ðò áíô� ãéá ñåôñ��ò áí å�íáé íá äéáë�îïõìå.
Åëð�æù íá âïçè�íå �áé áõô�.

�áë� ôá ÷ôéóô� áëë� ó�ìåñá õð�ñ÷ïõí �áé ðïëë� ARF, ARTF & ARTC ôá ïðï�á �÷ïõí åîåëé÷èå� óå ðïëý �áë�ò �áôáó�åõ�ò ãéá ðô�óç.
�áñáè�ôù ìåñé��ò öùôü áðï H9 P-51 Mustang óå 60�ñé �áé 150�ñé. �åôïýí èáõì�óéá üìùò �÷ïõí �áé ðïëë�óçìå�á ðïõ ÷ñ�æïõí âåëôéþóåùí ( Retracts, Firewalls, etc).

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�áé ôï ðïéü óçìáíôé�ü íá äå�ò ôï â�íôåï óôï ô�ëïò ï �áôáó�åõáóô�ò ( áð�èáíïò) ôï ïíïì�æåé áí äåí áðáôïìáé Å�ÉÔ�ÖÉ�.
   2×ѼΓ�Γ‰Γ� ÔÇΓ� Γ„Γ�ÕËÅÉ¢ ÔÇò Γ�Γ‘Γ�Γ�ÕÄΓ�Γ² Γ�Γ�Γ‰ Γ³Γ¥ 5 ëåðôΓ� Γ§ Γ�áôáóôñïöΓ�

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 Γ�Γ³Γ― ïìïñöï åéíáé ôï Scale toso åõΓ�ïëá ìðïñåΓ� Γ­Γ΅ Γ³Γ¥ áðïãïçôåýóç.
Óôá áåñïðëΓ�Γ­Γ΅ áõôá Γ§ ìáãΓ�Γ©Γ� åéíáé Γ­Γ΅ Γ�ñáôΓ�óåéò ôïí ðôåñõãéΓ�ΓΌ öüñôï ÷áìçëü ïðåñ óçìáΓ�íåé ( ðñüôáóç Γ�Γ�Γ­ΓΉ) Excel óôïí õðïëïãéóôΓ� Γ�áôáãñáöΓ� ôùí õëéΓ�ΓΎΓ­ (Bill of Material) æõãáñéΓ� Γ΅Γ�ñéâåΓ�áò Γ�áé ãéá ôï ΓΆΓ�øéìï Γ΅Γ�üìç èá ΓΆΓ�øåéò åíá äåΓ�ãìá Γ�áé èá ôï æõãΓ�óåéò .Γ�Γ­ áñ÷Γ�óåéò Γ�áé Γ�áôáóΓ�åõáæåéò Γ�áé âáëå áõôï ΓΆΓ�ëå Γ�áé ôï Γ�ëëï ,ëéãï èá Γ³Γ―Γµ îåöåýãåé Γ§ Γ�üëëá  Γ�ôë Γ�Γ΅ ðáò ìïíôåëïäñüìéï Γ�áé èá ôñΓ�ìïõí ðüäéá Γ�áé Γ·Γ�ñéá . Γ–ΓµΓ³Γ©Γ�Γ� äåí ìéëΓ�ΓΉ ãéá ãéá ÷åéñéóôéΓ�Γ�Γ² Γ©Γ�áíüôçôåò ð÷ ðéðåñ Cub ôï ðïéü áðëü åôóé Γ�áé ôïõ äþóåéò áðüôïìç Γ£Γ�áæéΓ� óôçí áðïãåΓ�ΓΉΓ³Γ§ Γ�áëçíý÷ôá åôóé Γ�áé Γ�Γ�íåé ðñïóãåΓ�ΓΉΓ³Γ§ ôñéþí óçìåΓ�ΓΉΓ­ = rodeo  Γ�ôëð Γ�ôëð........ áí åéóáé Γ�áéíïõñãéïò îåΓ�Γ�Γ­Γ΅ Γ�Γ—Γ‰ Γ�Γ… Γ�ÔÉ Γ“Γ�Γ• Γ�ÑÅÓÅÉ ÓÔΓ� Γ�Γ�ÔÉ Γ�ËËΓ� Γ�ÔÉ Γ�Γ�Γ�ÑÅÉÓ Γ�Γ� Γ�Γ…Γ”Γ�Γ�ÅÉÓ ôþñá óôçí áñ÷Γ� öõóéΓ�Γ�.

Åëð�æù ìå ôéò áðåéñïåë�÷éóôåò ãíþóåéò ìïõ íá âï�èçóá �áé åãþ
 Γ–éëéΓ�Γ� Ãéþñãïò :idiot2:

Óáò ÷áéñåôù ïëïõò,

�áé åãù ôñåëáìåíïò ìå ôá ìá÷çôé�á ôïõ 2ïõ åéìáé.Å÷ù åíá ð47 åíá 109(ôï áãáðçìåíï ìïõ) åíá ð51 �áé åíá �ïñóáéñ.Ôï ÷åéìùíá èá îå�éíçóù åíá Fw190d9.�í ôçí �áôáó�åõç ôçí ðåôõ÷ù ôïôå èá öôéáîù �áé 109 2ìåôñï ìå âåíæéíï�éíçôçñá!!!�åñåôå áí á�ïìá âãáéíåé ôï Fw190d9 ôçò Top Flite?

�áëåò ðôçóåéò!!

ø�÷íïíôáò âñ��á áõô�í ôçí éóôïóåë�äá ðïëý åíäéáö�ñïõóá äå�÷íåé ìå ëåðôïì�ñåéá ðïëë� �áôáó�åõáóôé�� ì�ñç

http://www.evoshangar.com/ (http://www.evoshangar.com/)

Gia sas .This is Jim Laskaridis and i live in Baltimore USA.I am 55 years old and have been building things that are flying since i was remember living.I am also an old member of  AEROLESXI ATHINON. Over the years i have been Designing-Building alot of small and large models. Also i fly ultralight airplanes and parashutes and have build three full scale airplanes (one that i still enjoy flying from tlme to time The KOLB )
I like to see that aeromodelismos is still inspiring all kinds of people in my home country,and i like to help as much possible all of you that i can.
On your Quest for good scale kits PICA KITS are probably the best in scale. They have a very nice SPITFIRE as well other models (all wood ."There is no Fiberglass here")I build a1/4 scale one time and it turn out vary nice.Weight about 16 pounds with a Supertiger 3000 in it.It performed very well.A few years ago i design and build the
C-160 Transall (full scale was made by Germany and Franch).Look's like a C-130 but has two engines.I start December 1998 and finished December 2000.
The construction of rhe airplane was very inexpenssive,aprox.$200-$300.I used material from comment hardware store,regular wood e.t.c. Balsa for wing skins and tail,blue foam
"felisol"for the wings whitch i cut on a home made foam-cutter,e.t.c
When completed and after the First few flytes it made the National Magazine for Giant models I.M.A.A and (i do not remember which months issue )been i beleve the First Giant model of it's kind.There were no drawings.I tooke and scale a 3 way view from an airplane book tha i had.It is 120"wing-span Weight's 45 pounds and powered by two zenoah G-38 Gas.It is flying Grate.I have keep most documentation of the contruction
Now i am planing a visit sometime in July and two weeks ago started the construction of a big SEAMASTER that i will bring it with me over there.ACE kit 85" w.span and weight 17-18 pounds which allready finished 2 days ago and ready to paint it this weekend.I talk to MrKostopoulos and he sujested to me to get a 2.4 raidio which just arrived yesterday and will be instaled .On engine i have a choice of a Tartan twin glow,and G-38 or A&M 2.0Gas
Q:what is the price of glow fuell in Greece? The Tartan uses 24 oz. tank in 7 minutes
but the model is amphibious and is more practical for water aplications(no electronics to wary about) Also i need infos. on where, when and how to fly at your fields(land and water if any)Please someone write me about it.Note if send e-mail please do not write in"*^"}\\==2 CHINISE, i only read and write Greek and English.
And let me know if you need any infos that i can answer(smoke systems are coming soon)

Gia sas. �õôü å�íáé Jim Ëáó�áñ�äçò �áé åãþ ì�íù óôçí Âáëôéìüñç USA.I å�ìáé 55 åôþí �áé íá �÷ïõí ôá ðñ�ãìáôá �ô�ñéï ðïõ ðåôïýí áðü ôüôå ðïõ �ìïõí èõì�ìáé living.I å�ìáé åð�óçò �íá ðáëéü ì�ëïò ôçò AEROLESXI ��Ç�Ù�. ��íù áðü ôï i ÷ñüíéá Ó÷åäéáóìüò-�ô�ñéï ðïëý ìé�ñþí �áé ìåã�ëùí ìïíô�ëùí. Åð�óçò è ðåôïýí õðåñåëáöñ� áåñïó��öç �áé parashutes �áé íá �÷ïõí ðë�ñç �áôáó�åõ� ôñéþí áåñïðë�íùí �ë�ìá�áò (áõôü ðïõ �÷ù á�üìá íá áðïëáýóåôå ðô�óåéò áðü tlme óå �áéñü Ç KOLB)
�ïõ áñ�óåé íá âë�ðù üôé aeromodelismos åìðí�åé á�üìç üëá ôá å�äç ôùí áíèñþðùí óôçí ðáôñ�äá ìïõ, �áé ìïõ áñ�óåé íá âïçè�óåé üóï ôï äõíáôüí óå üëïõò óáò üôé åãþ ìðïñþ.
Óôéò Quest óáò ãéá �áëü �éô �ë�ìá�á Pica KITS å�íáé �óùò ç �áëýôåñç óôçí �ë�ìá�á. ¸÷ïõí ìéá ðïëý ùñá�á SPITFIRE �áèþò �áé �ëëá ìïíô�ëá (üëá ôá îýëá. "Äåí õð�ñ÷åé Fiberglass åäþ") ìðïñþ íá ïé�ïäïì�óïõìå á1 / 4 �ë�ìá�á �íá ÷ñüíï �áé èá áðïäåé÷èå� ðïé��ëëïõí nice.Weight ðåñ�ðïõ 16 �éë� ìå Supertiger 3000 óå it.It å�ôåëå�ôáé well.A ðïëý ë�ãá ÷ñüíéá, ôï ó÷åäéáóìü �áé ôçí �áôáó�åõ� ôïõ
C-160 Transall (ðë�ñïõò �ë�ìá�áò �ãéíå áðü ôç Ãåñìáí�á �áé ôç ãáëëé��). Look óáí �íá C-130, áëë� �÷åé äýï engines.I îå�éí�óåé Äå��ìâñéï ôïõ 1998 �áé ôåëå�ùóå Äå�åìâñ�ïõ 2000.
Ç �áôáó�åõ� ôïõ rhe áåñïðë�íï �ôáí ðïëý inexpenssive, aprox. $ 200 - $ 300.I ÷ñçóéìïðïéå�ôáé õëé�ü áðü �áô�óôçìá óéäçñé�þí ó÷üëéï, ôá�ôé�� îýëï �ëð. Â�ëóáìï ãéá ôá ä�ñìáôá öôåñü �áé ôçí ïõñ�, ìðëå áöñüò
"felisol" ãéá ôï i whitch öôåñ� �ïìì�íá óå �íá óðéôé�ü áöñü-�üðôçò, �ëð.
¼ôáí ïëï�ëçñùèå� �áé ìåô� áðü ôéò ðñþôåò flytes ðïõ áí�ëáâå ôï Åèíé�ü ðåñéïäé�ü ãéá Giant ìïíô�ëá IMAA �áé (äåí èõì�ìáé ðïõ å�ä�äïõí ì�íåò) �ôáí i beleve ôï ðñþôï ìïíô�ëï ôçò Giant å�íáé kind.There äåí �ôáí drawings.I tooke �ë�ìá�áò �áé �íá 3 ôñüðï è�á áðü �íá âéâë�ï áåñïðë�íï tha had.It i å�íáé 120 "ðô�ñõãá äé�óôçìá 45 Â�ñïò ôçò ë�ñåò �áé ôñïöïäïôå�ôáé áðü äýï Zenoah G-38 Gas.It ö�ñåé Grate.I �÷ïõí �ñáô�óåé ôá ðåñéóóüôåñá �ããñáöá ôçò contruction
Ôþñá å�ìáé ðë�íéóìá ìéá åð�ó�åøç ��ðïéá óôéãì� ôïí Éïýëéï �áé ðñéí áðü äýï åâäïì�äåò îå��íçóå ç �áôáó�åõ� åíüò ìåã�ëïõ Seamaster üôé åãþ èá ôï ö�ñù ìáæ� ìïõ ð�íù there.ACE �éô 85 "w.span �áé â�ñïò 17-18 �éë� ðïõ allready ôåëåéþóåé 2 çì�ñåò ðñéí �áé �ôïéìï íá æùãñáö�óåé üôé áõôü weekend.I ìéë�óåôå MrKostopoulos �áé áõôüò sujested óå ì�íá ãéá íá ð�ñåôå ìéá 2,4 raidio ðïõ ìüëéò �öôáóå ÷èåò �áé èá instaled. Óôéò i �éíçô�ñá �÷åé ôçí åðéëïã� åíüò Tartan ä�äõìï ë�ìøç, �áé G-38 �áé A & M 2.0Gas
Åñ: �ïéá å�íáé ç ôéì� ôïõ fuell ë�ìøç óôçí Åëë�äá; Ç Tartan ÷ñçóéìïðïéå� 24 ïõã�é�ò äåîáìåí�ò óå 7 ëåðô�
áëë� ôï ìïíô�ëï å�íáé áìö�âéá �áé å�íáé ðéï ðñá�ôé�ü ãéá aplications íåñü (äåí çëå�ôñïíé�þí íá äéóô�æïõí) Åð�óçò ÷ñåé�æïìáé Infos. ó÷åôé�� ìå ôï ðïý, ðüôå �áé ðþò íá ðåôïýí óå ôïìå�ò ðïõ óáò (ãç �áé ôï íåñü, áí õð�ñ÷åé) �áñá�áëþ ��ðïéïò íá ìïõ ãñ�øïõí ãéá it.Note å�í óôå�ëåôå e-mail óáò ðáñá�áëþ íá ìçí ãñ�øåôå in. ...., è ìüíï äéáâ�æïõí �áé íá ãñ�öïõí åëëçíé�� �áé áããëé�� .
�áé åðéôñ�øôå ìïõ íá î�ñù áí ÷ñåé�æåóôå ïðïéáä�ðïôå infos üôé ìðïñþ íá áðáíô�óù (óõóô�ìáôá �áðíïý �ñ÷ïíôáé óýíôïìá)

ôï fuel ë�ìøç óôçí Åëë�äá å�íáé á�ñéâþò
Ç ðïëý ùñá�á SPITFIRE å�íáé �ô�ñéï áðü 3 ôñüðï è�á, �áé ôï â�ëóáìï å�ìáé ðë�íéóìá
Ö�ñôï ð�íù there óôçí ãç �áé ôï íåñü !

Έκανα ότι μπορούσα....! :(

�ñéóôå?? äåí �áôáëáâá ôðô... LoLLL!

�áéäé� sorry ãéá ôá greeklish.
 Γ�ïëçò Γ³Γ�ìåñá ôá Γ�áôΓ�öåñá Γ­Γ΅ óõíôïíΓ�Γ³ΓΉ ôï comp. þóôå Γ­Γ΅ ìðïñþ Γ­Γ΅ Γ³Γ΄Γ�ëíù Γ³Γ¥ ìåôΓ�öñáóç ,Γ�áé Γ­Γ΅ ëáìâΓ�Γ­ΓΉ e-mail áíáãíþóéìï.
�í è�ëåôå ðëçñïöïñ�åò ãéá Giant Scale ,ãñáöô� ìïõ �áé èá óáò áðáíô�óù(ôþñá ðïõ äåí áðáó÷ïëïýìáé ìå ðïëë� ðñ�ãìáôá,ëüãï �áéñïý).
 Sincerely Jim USA

áí �áé óôçí áñ÷ç ìå åé÷áí óõíåðáñåé ôá á�ñïâáôé�á ìïíôåëá �áé éäéáéôåñá ôá 3d, ôåëåõôáéá áñ÷éóáí íá ìå ãïçôåõïõí ðáñá ðïëõ ôá ðïëåìé�á wwII, ìå áðïôåëåóìá áõôï.....öùôïãñáöéåò 11-12..
http://aeromodelling-news.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=138:---scale-11-2009&catid=42:gallery&Itemid=122.
ìïõ áñåóå ôïóï ðïëõ áõôï ôï ìïíôåëï, ðïõ ìåôá ôçí �áôáó�åõç ôïõ áðïöáóéóá íá ôïõ öôéáîù homemade retracts, ôá ïðïéá ðáñåðéðôïíôùò ëåéôïõñãïõí �áôáðëç�ôé�á �áé ìå scale åìöáíéóç áöïõ ôï óåñâï åéíáé åéäé�ïõ ôõðïõ �áé áñãï...
ôùñá ç äåõôåñç áðïðåéñá åéíáé çäç óôá ó�áñéá �áé åéíáé áõôç...
http://www.nem.gr/index.html?target=news#57.
�áèïôé áðåéñïò óôïí ÷ùñï ôùí äé�éíçôçñéùí, ðçñá �áðïéåò óõìâïõëåò áðï ðñïèõìïõò öéëïõò �áé ðñï÷ùñù áñãá áëëá óôáèåñá..
ç ðñùôç ðáôåíôá -ìåôáôñïðç, åãéíå óôá áíáóõñïìåíá ó�åëç, áöïõ çôáí ðíåõìáôé�á, áëëá äåí ìïõ áñåóåé ôï ãåãïíïò ïôé �áèå ëéãï èåëåé íá ðñïóèåôåéò áåñá(ôñïìðåò �ëð) áëëá �áé ç ôá÷õôçôá ëåéôïõñãéáò ðïõ åéíáé ðïëõ ìåãáëç áëëá �áé áðïôïìç...
ôï áðïôåëåóìá åéíáé ç �áôáó�åõç âáóçò �áé ç ôïðïèåôçóç ìéíé óåñâï 9ãñ. ðéóù áðï �áèå ó�åëïò ïðïõ �áé ôá ôñéá ãéíïíôáé ìéîç óôï �áíáëé gear áëëá óå ÷ùñéóôá �áíáëéá ãéá åõ�ïëéá ìé�ñïñõèìéóåùí-äéáäñïìùí �ëð. åðéóçò áöïõ ï ðïìðïò ìïõ å÷åé ôçí äõíáôïôçôá ñõèìéóçò servo speed, o ñåáëéóìïò åéíáé äåäïìåíïò..ìå ôçí ðñùôç åõ�áéñéá èá áíåâáóù öùôï , éóùò �áé âéíôåï áðï ôçí ëåéôïõñãéá ôùí retracts..

Ö�ëå Ôüëç,

Óõã÷áñçô�ñéá ãéá ôçí åðéôõ÷�á óïõ, ôï VQ å�íáé üíôùò üìïñöï ìïíô�ëï. Õðïè�ôù üôé å�íáé ôï .50 FW-190, åãþ �÷ù ôï �áéíïýñãéï .60 (ôï �öåñá áðü Éôáë�á ãéáô� ï �Å� äåí ôï �÷åé)

�å åíäéáö�ñåé ðïëý áõôü ðïõ áíáö�ñåéò ãéá homemade retracts, ìðïñå�ò íá ìáò äþóåéò ðåñéóóüôåñåò ðëçñïöïñ�åò;

¸÷ù ðïëë� WW2 warbirds �áé �÷ù äïõë�øåé retracts ìç÷áíé�� (�� ì�÷ñé ì�ãåèïò .50 ð.÷. Kyosho), ðíåõìáôé�� (�÷ïõí ôçí öáóáñ�á ôïõò áëë� äïõë�õïõí �áë�) �áé �÷ù �áé �íá óåô LADOs 602 ðåñéóôñåöüìåíá óå �íá P-40, ôá ïðï�á å�íáé çëå�ôñé�� ìå óåñâïìç÷áíéóìü ðïõ ðåñéóôñ�öåé �íá áô�ñìïíá �ï÷ë�á �áé �ôóé äïõëåýïõí áîéüðéóôá, ìå ñåáëéóôé�� ôá÷ýôçôá �áé åîáéñåôé�� ìåôáëé�� �áôáó�åõ�. Å�íáé �áôáðëç�ôé��, �ñ�ìá ðïõ ç åôáéñå�á ��ëåéóå áðü üôé öá�íåôáé.

���ïò

áõôï ðïõ å�áíá ìå ôá homemade åéíáé ïôé áðëá å�áíá ìéá áíôéãñáöç áðï ôçí robart..ôéðïôå ðáñáðáíù..
áðëá ðñùôá ôá åöôéáîá áðï îõëï ðïõ äïõëåõåôáé åõ�ïëá ãéá íá åéìáé óéãïõñïò ïôé ïé �éíçóåéò �áé ïé ãùíéåò �áé ôï ìåãåèïò åéíáé óùóôá..
�áôïðéí , å�ïøá ãùíéåò áëïõìéíéïõ ãéá ôéò âáóåéò, âéäùèç�áí ìåôáîõ ôïõò ìå âéäåò �áé áðïóôáôåò áðï �áñìðïí �áé ÷ñçóéìïððïéçóá ïôé õëé�á âñç�á ãéá ðåéñïõò...ôï ìïíï äõó�ïëï óçìåéï çôáí ôï åóùôåñé�ï óçìåéï �éíçóçò, ïðïõ åíáò öéëïò ìå ôïñíï ðñïóöåñèç�å íá ìïõ öôéáîåé äéó�ïõò áðï áëïõìéíéï, ôïõò ïðïéïõò åãù ìåôá åðåîåñãáóèç�á ìå ôï ÷åñé ãéá íá öôéáîù ôïí áöáëï ôïõ ìç÷áíéóìïõ...áóôá öéëå..ðïëõ äïõëåéá..ðáíôùò ðñïò å�ðëçîç ìïõ ëåéôïõñãïõí ðïëõ �áëá �áé áðïôåëåóìáôé�á åùò ôùñá...
îåñåéò äåí çôáí èåìá �ïóôïõò....áðëá åôóé ãéá ôï ãáìùôï, çèåëá íá äù åáí ìðïñù íá ôá �áôáöåñù �áé óå áõôï ôï �ïììáôé...
 :thumbs up: :thumbs up: :D :D

áëçèåéá...éôáëéá áðï ðïõ????

Äåò áõôü ôï thread http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1081864 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1081864) ôï ëéí� ãéá ôï éôáëé�ü eshop å�íáé óôï ðïóô 23. �ïëý åîõðçñåôé�ï�, ôïõò ð�ñá ôçë ðñéí ðáñáããå�ëù ãéá íá óõíåííïçèþ ãéá ôá ìåôáöïñé��.

ΒΈΓ·Γ―ΓµΓ­ Γ�áé Γ�Γ­Γ΅ ðïëý ΓΉΓ±Γ΅Γ�Γ― Macchi 205  ;)

�ïëçèç�áí ôá öôåñá �áé ìðç�áí ôá retracts
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh4/tolsof/INVADER001.jpg)

íá �áé ôá retracts ìå ôï ìéíé óåñâï...
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�áé íá ëåéðïõí ôá ó÷ïëéá �áé ôá ãåëéá ãéá ôïí...."ðáã�ï åñãáóéáò" ìïõ.. :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ãéáôé ? ?    Ôé å÷åé Γ― ðáãΓ�Γ―Γ² ?  Γ�ðëá ðñåðåé Γ­Γ΅ ðáñåéò ôï íåï  ìïíôåëï ìå  åíóùìáôùìåíç ìðñéæá      :laugh:    :laugh:

åíôáîåé ôïôå.....åéìáé ìåóá óôçí ìïäá.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Γ�áíôùò  ãéíåôáé  ðïëõ ïìïñöï  ôï   Intruder   :thumbs up:   

  Ãéá ñéîå ìéá  ìáôéá  Γ�áé  åäù      http://www.anything-rc.com/twin-engine-rc-planes.html

�ðñ�âï Ôüëç ðïëý �áë� äïõëåé�

Ôá ìéíé ó�ñâï �÷ïõí áñ�åô� þóç ãéá ôá retract? Ó��øïõ üôé ðñ�ðåé íá äïõë�øïõí ìå ôçí áíô�óôáóç ôïõ á�ñá üôáí �áôåâ�æïõí ôá ó��ëç, íá ìçí äéðëþóïõí óôï óï� ôïõ touch-down, �ëð

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�ïéôáîå íé�ï...áõôçí ôçí öïâéá åé÷á �áé åãù , ìçðùò ç áíôéóôáóç ôïõ áåñá äåí åðéôñåðåé ôçí å�ôáóç ôïõ óõóôçìáôïò, áëëá ôï èåôé�ï åéíáé ïôé ôï éäéï ôïõ ôï âáñïò âïçèáåé ðïëõ óôï íá �áôåâåé åùò åíá óçìåéï �áé áðï å�åé �áé ìåôá ôï ìï÷ëé�ï ôïõ åéíáé åõ�ïëï ãéá ôï ìéíé óåñâï íá ôï ôñáâçîåé ðëçñùò..áëëùóôå åãéíå �áé äï�éìç ìå ðéóôïëá�é ìáëëéùí.. :D :D :D :D :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:
ôùñá ïóïí áöïñá óôçí ðñïóãåéùóç, å�åé ôï óåñâï äåí ôñùåé �áíåíá æïñé áöïõ ï ìç÷áíéóìïò ìåóá óôïí áöáëï ôïõ retract ôï �ïõìðùíåé ìï÷ëé�á.. :thumbs up:

Γ�áíôïò áðï ôá ìç÷áíéΓ�Γ΅ áíáóõñïìåíá ðïõ å÷ù äïΓ�éìáóåé Γ�áôá ðåñéïäïõò ..Γ�áé äåí çôáí Γ�áé Γ�áìéáò öéñìáò,áí åéíáé óùóôç Γ§ åãΓ�áôáóôáóç äåí ôñå÷åé ôéðïôá  8)smiley

ôï  storch  ôçò  mantua  ìðïñåé  Γ­Γ΅ èåùñçèåé  scale?

Äåí ìðïñå� íá èåùñçèå�. ÅÉ��É åî' ïñéóìïý scale.

Ôüëç ôþñá åîçãΓ�ôáé ãéáôΓ� óôá ìïíôΓ�ëá Γ³Γ―Γµ ôï ìïíïΓ�Γ―Γ΄ Γ¥Γ�íáé ãëõìΓ�Γ­Γ―!  :laugh: :laugh: :angel:

WW2 ftw!!!! :thumbs up: :thumbs up:

ps ôï Γ¬Γ�ΓµΓ±Γ― ÷ñþìá Γ¥Γ�íáé ôï Γ�áëýôåñï ãéá ôçí Γ―Γ¬Γ�÷ëç !!!  :laugh: :laugh:  ;)

Γ�þóôá ôï Γ³ΓµΓ£Γ�Γ¥Γ�ñéìΓ�Γ­Γ― kit ôçò Aviomodelli, áð' üôé Γ¥Γ�äá óôçí åããëΓ�æéΓ�Γ§ áíôéðñïóùðåΓ�Γ΅ (https://www.mantuamodel.co.uk/Model_Aircraft/Aviomodelli__power_/_70097__Fieseler_Storch_72.html),  Γ¥Γ�íáé semi scale, äçëáäΓ� Γ�Γ·Γ―ΓµΓ­ Γ£Γ�íåé Γ�Γ�ðïéåò áëëáãΓ�Γ² ãéá Γ­Γ΅ ðåôΓ�åé Γ�áëýôåñá óáí ìïíôΓ�ëï. ÓõíΓ�èùò Γ³Γ¥ ìïíôΓ�ëá áåñïðëΓ�Γ­ΓΉΓ­ ìéΓ�Γ±ΓΎΓ­ Γ�áé áñãþí Γ―Γ© áëëáãΓ�Γ² áõôΓ�Γ² Γ¥Γ�íáé ìéΓ�Γ±Γ�Γ².

Å�íáé üìùò �áëü ìïíô�ëï, �áë� åðéôõ÷�á óôçí �áôáó�åõ� �áé ôçí ðô�óç.

Kùóôá  Γ―Γ©  äéáöïñåò åéíáé  óôçí  ãùíéá  ôïõ öôåñïõ  Γ�áé ôïõ óôáìðéëáéæåñ?

Ç óõíçè�óôåñç äéáöïñ� å�íáé ç áýîçóç ôùí åðéöáíåéþí ôçò ïõñ�ò, üóï ìé�ñá�íåé ôá÷ýôçôá �áé ì�ãåèïò ð�öôïõí ïé áñéèìï� Reynolds �áé ç áåñïäõíáìé�� áðüäïóç. �á ðñ�ðåé íá äåé �áíå�ò ðïëý ðñïóå�ôé�� ôá ó÷�äéá ãéá íá ðåé ôé äéáöïñ�ò õð�ñ÷ïõí. �õôü ��íïõí ïé �ñéô�ò. Óôá scale ðïõ �áôáó�åõ�æïíôáé ãéá áãþíåò ã�íåôáé ðñïóð�èåéá íá ìçí "öá�íïíôáé" ïé äéáöïñ�ò. Åð�óçò è�ëåé õðïëïãéóìü. �éá ìé�ñ� äéáöïñ� ìðïñå� íá óïõ �üøåé ë�ãï áðü ôçí óôáôé�� âáèìïéëïã�á áëë� íá �åñä�óåéò ðåñéóóüôåñá óôçí ðô�óç. Óôá scale, å�ôüò áðü ôçí ðïéüôçôá �áôáó�åõ�ò, ðá�æåéò �áé áõôü ôï ðáé÷í�äé.

�ïì�æù üìùò ïôé ��áíåò ìéá �áë� åðéëïã� ãéá íá ìðåéò óôïí �üóìï ôïõ scale, äåí �÷åé óçìáó�á áí å�íáé semi scale, èá áðï�ô�óåéò áñ�åô� åìðåéñ�á.

Ãåéá óáò ðáôñéþôåò ìïõ.""åðåéä�"" �÷ù �áé åãþ áó÷ïëçèå� ìå scale èá óáò ðù �áé åãþ ôçí äé�ç ìïõ �ðïøç.
 Γ”Γ― 90% ôùí ìïíôΓ�ëùí scale Γ¥Γ�íáé ðïëý âáñéΓ�-áóôáèåΓ�Γ²- ìç ìïõ Γ�ðôïõ-áðáéôïýí ðüëïõò ìá ðüëïõò Γ¬Γ�íåò ìðïñåΓ� ÷ñïíéá Γ�áôáóΓ�åõΓ�Γ²-áðáéôïýí Γ·Γ―Γ±ΓΌ(åñãáóôΓ�ñéï)ãéá ìüíéìç ôïðïèΓ�ôçóç Γ�áé """""Γ�áôáóΓ�åâáóéá""""" -k.t.l. Γ�Γ�Γ�ÉÔΓ�Γ•Γ� ìåãΓ�ëá Γ�áé Γ�áëΓ� """""""ìïäåëïäñïìéá"""""""-Γ¬Γ�Γ³Γ΅ ìåôáöïñΓ�Γ²-Γ�áé Γ΅Γ�ñéâΓ� systymata(raidio,servos,batteries,e.t.c.)
�ðáéôïýí ó÷åôé�� experience pilots �áé �áôáó�åõáóô�ò(ü÷é áñ÷�ñéïé åäþ) ×ñåé�æïíôáé ó÷åôé��ò ãíþóåéò �åñïäõíáìé��ò áðü ôïí kataskevasth,k.t.l.
P.X ¸÷ù �áôáó�åõ�óåé �íá Waco """"""äéðëáíü"""""" 1/4(�åð�íï Drawings) �áé ìïõ ð�ñå ðåñ�ðïõ 8 ÷ñïíéá.( �áé ôï ðéï áóôå�ï ôçò õðïè�óåùò"Äåí ôï �÷ù ðåô�îåé á�üìá".¸÷åé 32 â�äåò ãéá óõíáñìïëïãçèå�)
Ôåëåéþíïíôáò,å�íáé hobby ãéá ôïõò �ËÉÃ�ÕÓ �õô� üëá äåí ôá ãñ�öù ãéá íá óáò áðùè�óù áðü ôï scale,áëëá ãéá íá äþóù ìåñé��ò ðëçñïöïñ�åò óôïõò åíäéáöåñïìåíïõò óôï scale ãéá ôï ôé èá áíôéìåôùð�óïõí. Sincerely Jim USA

Åðéôñ�øåôå ìïõ íá ðñïóè�óù �áé ��ôé �ëëï. ¸÷ù �íá ö�ëï ï ïðïéïò �áôáó�åõ�æåé �íá beautyfull Piper Wagavon åäþ �áé ðïëë� ÷ñïíéá,�áé ìïõ �÷åé ðåé üôé äåí íïì�æåé íá æ�óç á�åô� íá ôï äç íá ðåô�îåé. ¸÷ù káôáó�åõáóç 3 Ultralights Full Scale ìå ôá ïðïéá ð�ôáãá ï �äéïò (�íá äéè�óéï áðü îýëï,�íá ìïíï. áðü aluminum,�áé �íá ìïíï áðü composites),�áé �áí�íá äåí ìå ð�ñå ð�íù áðü 2 ÷ñïíéá.
SCALE is TIME CONSUMING �áé ãéá ôïõò ðåñéóóïôåñïõò áðü åì�ò LIFE is TOO SHORT......

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Åìå�ò ìéë�ìå ãéá ôçí �ëëç ��ñç ôïõ ö�óìáôïò "scale" ü÷é scratch-build áëëá ARF:
- Åôïéìï óå 1 åâäïì�äá - 1 ì�íá
- �åô�åé �áë� ãéáô� å�íáé ""sport-scale"
- Ôï ðåô�ò ��èå Ó� ì�÷ñé íá óð�óåé �áé íá ð�ñåéò �ëëï (��èåå 8 åâäïì�äåò - 8 ì�íåò)

Ôá 8 ÷ñüíéá ðïõ áíáö�ñåéò å�íáé "�ñãï æù�ò" ü÷é ìïíô�ëï !
¸÷ù ôá DVD ôïõ Dave Platt ôá ïðï�á öô�íïõí óå åð�ðåäï áðïôýðùóçò ôïõ �÷íïõò ðïõ áö�íåé ��èå ðñéôó�íé óôçí åðéö�íåéá ôïõ öôåñïý, áô�ëåéåò óôá áíáãíùñéóôé�� ãñ�ììáôá áðü öùôï ôïõ áõèåíôé�ïý áåñïðë�íïõ, �ëð ëåðôïì�ñåéåò ðïõ èá óå ö�ñïõí óôçí 1 è�óç óôá US Scale Nationals ...
Å�íáé åíäéáö�ñïí, áëë� áðåõèýíåôáé óå ìåéïíüôçôá ôïõ ÷üìðõ ìáò

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�ïìéæù ïôé ôá ðñáãìáôá äåí åéíáé ôïóï ôñáãé�á ...å÷ù öôéáîåé áñ�åôá ìïíôåëá �áé áðï ôçí áñ÷ç �áé �éô ,�áé scale �áé sport.
O ÷ñïíïò ðïõ ÷ñåéáæåôå ãéá íá óôçèåé åíá ìïíôåëï scale áðï ôï 0 åîáñôáôáé áðï ðïëëá ðñáãìáôá �áé ïðùóäçðïôå äåí ðáéñíåé ìéá æùç.
�áô áñ÷ç ðáéæåé ìåãáëï ñïëï ôï ìïíôåëï ôï éäéï ,ð÷ áëëç äïõëåéá å÷åé åíá CAP 232 �áé áëëç åíá äéðëáíï 1ïõ ðáã�ïóìéïõ ç åíá 2�éíçôçñéï 2ïõ.
Åðéóçò ï ÷ñïíïò åîáñôáôáé áðï ôï âáèìï ëåðôïìåñåéáò ðïõ èåëåé ï �áèå åíáò íá áðïôõðùóåé .
�í åéíáé äõó�ïëá óôçí ðôçóç ç âáñéá ç "áãáñìðá" ôá scale �áé áõôï åéíáé ó÷åôé�ï �áé åîáñôáôáé áðï ôï ìïíôåëï ,áðï ôçí �áôáó�åõç ðïõ å÷åé ãéíåé �áé áðï ôçí ðñïóï÷ç ç ï÷é óôï èåìá "âáñïò"
Å�ôïò áðï 1 ìïíôåëï ðïõ å�áíá ðáëéá ïëá ôá õðïëïéðá scale ôá �áôáåõ÷áñçóôçèé�á ,�áé ðôçôé�á, �áé �áôá ôçí �áôáó�åõç .

Γ�áéäéá  åáí  å÷åéò ìåñáΓ�Γ© ãéá ôçí Γ�áôáóΓ�åõç Γ�áé å÷åéò  Γ�áôáóΓ�åõáóç ôñéá ìå ôåóóåñá áåñïðëáíá å÷åéò ðéóôåõù ôçí Γ©Γ�áíïôçôá Γ­Γ΅ Γ�áôáóΓ�åõáóçò åíá scale ìïíôåëï. Ôá áåñïðëáíá ðïõ å÷ù Γ�áôáóΓ�åõóç áðï Γ�éô åéíáé ôçò great plane Γ�áé åíáé  åõΓ�ïëá óôçí Γ�áôáóΓ�åõç.Ôï storch  ïìùò  ôçò  mantua Γ�áé åéíáé  áñΓ�åôá äõóΓ�ïëï. Åéíáé  äå Γ§ ðñùôç  öïñá ðïõ  åâáëá õöáóìá óôá öôåñá ìá âåñíéΓ�Γ© á÷ñùìï  îõëïõ.
Γ‡ áôñáΓ�ôïò  åéíáé  ìå ëùñéäåò ìðáëóáò  óôïΓ�áñéóìåíåò  ìå  áöñïóôïΓ�Γ―  îõëïõ  Γ�áé ôï å÷ù ðåñáóåé ìå óïëöáóåñ , ìåôá  ôï âåñíéΓ�ùìá ôùí öôåñùí  ôá ðåñáóá Γ�áé áöôá ìå óïëöáóåñ Γ�áé åéíáé åôïéìá ãéá âáöç ìå ÷ñùìá  áõôïΓ�éíçôïõ. Óôï ÷ñùìá  èá ðñïóôåèåé Γ�áé åëáóôéΓ�ïðïéçôçò. Åëðéæù Γ­Γ΅ ðáíå ïëá Γ�áëá .Ôï âáñïò èá åéíáé ó÷åäïí  ðåíôå Γ�éëá.

�áé ãéá íá óáò îåáã÷ùóù ëéãï , íá ðñïó÷ùñçóïõìå ìå ôçí �áôáó�åõç ôïõ invader.
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�áéäé�,áõô� ðïõ áíáöåñüóáóôå,å�íáé ôá Sport Scale.�õô� ìïõ áñ�óïõí �áé åìåíá, ãéáô� äåí õð�ñ÷åé ðïëý ôñ�îéìï ãéá ëåðôïì�ñåéá,�áé öõóé�� äåí áðáéôïýí ðïëý ÷ñüíï.P.X. Ôï ðåñáóì�íï �áëï�áéñé ðïõ �ñèá óôçí Åëë�äá,��èhóá �áé �öôéáîá(÷ôéóôü) ôï Kit Giant Sea-master 85"öôåñü �áé 22 ð�ïõíôò â�ñïò,�áé ôï �öåñá óôçí Åëë�äá.�ðü ôï �íïéãìá ôïõ �ïõôéïý, ì�÷ñé ôçí ðñþôç äï�éìáóôé�� ðô�óç ìå ðå�ñå 2 1/2 åâäïì�äåò.�åô� ìéá çìåñá ãéá íá öôé�îù ôï ö�ñåôñï(�ïõô�)50x50x220 å�áôïóô� ðïõ ôï ôïðïè�ôçóá,�áé üëá áõô� ôüóï ãñ�ãïñá ãéáô� å�íáé Fun Scale(ïìïé�æåé ìå áåñïðë�íï ôçò ðõñüóâåóçò. Åð� ôïõ è�ìáôïò üìùò,�áé áðü üôé äé�âáóá óôï forum,�áé ôçí öùôü ôïõ Greekman ìå áõô� ôá scale ìïíô�ëá ðïõ å�÷å,áõô� ðïõ óáò �ãñáøá,üëá éó÷ýïõí.(öõóé�� ü÷é ãéá üëá ôá ìïíô�ëá) Note; ¼óï ãéá ôçí áóô�èåéá �áé ôï â�ñïò,�áô� ì�ñïò óõìâáä�æïõí,wing loading,Gs,stall speed,stall spin "óýíäñïìï" k.t.l.¼óï äå ðéï â�ñéï ôï ìïíô�ëï ôüóï ðéï ìåã�ëï �áé �áëïöôéáãì�íï áåñïäñüìéï áðáéôå� Sincerely Jim

Ç íô�æá ôïõ ã�áæéïý ìðïñå� íá ã�íåé "Ã" ãýñù áðü ôï ôáí�, áí å�íáé ó�ëçñü ôï óýñìá äåí èá �÷åé ðñüâëçìá áðü�ñéóçò

Ôï â�ñïò å�íáé åíôüò ðñïäéáãñáöþí;

Γ�åñéΓ�åò öùôï  áðï ôï storch

Γ�Γ�ïìç  ìéá

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åáí ìáò åðéôñåøåé Γ― Γ�áéñïò, Γ�áé ìïõ åðéôñåøåé Γ§ ãáóôñåíôåñéôéäá  :'( :'(, åõåëðéóôù áõñéï Γ­Γ΅ óôñùèïõí ôá ìïôåñ Γ�áé Γ­Γ΅ Γ�áíåé Γ�áé ôçí ðáñèåíéΓ�Γ§ ôïõ ðôçóç, áðï ïðïõ éóùò Γ­Γ΅ å÷ïõìå Γ�áé âéíôåï... :thumbs up:

Öïâåñüò üðùò Γ°Γ�íôá Γ― Ôüëçò. Ôï ðñéæΓ�Γ�Γ© Γ°Γ�íôùò Γ¶Γ�ëå Γ¥Γ�íáé üëá ôá ëåöôΓ�. Γ�Γ―Γ¬Γ�æù üôé ðñΓ�ðåé Γ­Γ΅ Γ�áôï÷õñþóåéò ôçí ðáôΓ�íôá ôï óõíôïìüôåñï  :thumbs up: :thumbs up: 

Ôüëç �áë� ðáñèåíé��, áíáì�íïõìå ôï â�íôåï!

Äåò áõôü ãéá ðñïåôïéìáó�á: http://www.anything-rc.com/twin-engine-rc-planes.html (http://www.anything-rc.com/twin-engine-rc-planes.html)

Nikos

åõ÷áñéóôù ðïëõ ãéá ôï link...ðïëõ �áôáôïðéóôé�ï �áé éäéáéôåñá ÷ñçóéìï... :thumbs up: :thumbs up: :thumbs up:
�áé ï èåïò âïçèïò...áò åëðéóïõìå ïôé äåí èá å÷ïõìå flame out...

Γ�Γ―ΓµΓ�Γ«Γ� Ôüëç, Γ�áëïðΓ�ôá÷ôï  :thumbs up:

(�áé ðåñáóôé��)

äõóôõ÷ùò óçìåñá ï �áéñïò ìáò ôá ÷áëáóå..
äåí ðôïïõìåèá ïìùò...ôá ìïôåñ å�áøáí áðï åíá ôåðïæéôï óôï...ìðáë�ïíé ìå áñ�åôç âñï÷ç áðï åîù.. :idiot2: :idiot2: :idiot2:
ðù ðù ðé�ñá...áíôå ôùñá íá ñõèìéóåéò äõï ìïôåñ íá å÷ïõí óùóôï ìéãìá óôéò øçëåò, óôï ñåëáíôé, íá å÷ïõí éäéá áðïäïóç øçëá, éäéï ñåëáíôé �áé éäéï transition. :idiot2: :idiot2: :'( :'( >:( >:( ...�áëá ëååé ï öéëïò áìåñé�áíïò óôï link.."ÄÕ� �É�ÇÔÇÑÅÓ = ÔÅÓÓÅÑÉÓ Ö�ÑÅÓ ����Ó ��É ��ÅË�Ó"....

�áñüôé �÷ù öåô�÷ ìå ôéò 4-÷ñïíåò, åãþ ãéá ðñþôï äé�éíçô�ñéï èá ð�ñù çëå�ôñé�ü �áé ìåô� âë�ðïõìå.

¸÷ù â�ëåé óôï ì�ôé áõôü: http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=25713 (http://www.sussex-model-centre.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=25713)

�áé áõôü: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1001036 (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1001036)

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Γ�áëΓ� íôå, ìç âáñΓ�ôå! áí ðåôΓ�îåé Γ�áëΓ� Γ£Γ�íåôáé Γ�áé ìåôáôñïðΓ� Γ³Γ¥ glow  :thumbs up:

íáé áëëá ìçí îå÷íáò...åóõ ìïõ åäùóåò ôï ÷ñçóéìï link......
ôé åííïåé ï ðïéçôçò?????
åíá äé�éíçôçñéï scale �áé ìáëéóôá WWII åéíáé ç ÷åéñïôåñç åðéëïãç ãéá ôçí åéóïäï óôá äé�éíçôçñéá, ëïãù ðïëõ õøçëïõ ðôåñõãé�ïõ öïñôïõ.....ïðùò åãù áò ðïõìå ðïõ ôçí ðáôçóá óáí áðåéñïò.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
ôùñá åóõ ðïõ èåëåéò ôåôïéï �áé ìáëéóôá ìå ìé�ñïôåñï å�ðåôáóìá, íá äïõìå ðùò èá ôï áðïãåéùóåéò....�áé áíôå �áé ôï óç�ùóåò...íá äïõìå ðùò èá ôï �áôåâáóåéò... :D :D :thumbs up: :thumbs up:
áëëùóôå åéíáé ãíùóôï ðùò ïóï ìåãáëùíåé ç ðôåñõãé�ç åðéöáíåéá(äçëáäç ìåãáëï ìïíôåëï) ôïóï �áëõôåñï �áé áíáëïãé�á åëáöñõôåñï ìïíôåëï.. :thumbs up: :thumbs up:

    Γ…Γ±Γ¥ ôé ðáôåñá å÷ù!!! Γ�ëï Γ�áìáñé åéìáé! Γ�åóá Γ³Γ¥ óõíôïìï Γ·Γ±Γ―Γ­Γ©Γ�Γ― äéáóôçìá, 3D, F3A Γ�áé scale!!!! Ôé áëëï Γ­Γ΅ èåëåé åíáò ãéïò??? Óõã÷áñçôçñéá!!!   ;)  :) :) :)

åõ÷áñéóôù ãéå ìïõ ãéá ôá �áëá óïõ ëïãéá... :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

óçìåñá ôï ìåóçìåñé  ëïéðïí "the lady in red" ðçãå óôï ìïíôåëïäñïìéï ãéá ôéò ôåëéΓ�åò ñõèìéóåéò Γ�áé ôçí ðñùôç ôçò ðôçóç.... :) :)
áò áñ÷éóïõìå ôá ó÷ïëéá áðï ôçí ñõèìéóç ôùí Γ�éíçôçñùí ðïõ ìïõ ðçñáí ðåñéðïõ 1 ΓΉΓ±Γ΅ ìå ôçí âïçèåéá âåâáéá ôïõ ãéïõ ìïõ Γ�ùóôç..áöïõ ñõèìéóôçΓ�Γ¥ Γ§ ìåãáëç âåëïíá óôéò øçëåò óôñïöåò ôïõ äåîéïõ Γ�éíçôçñá Γ�áèùò Γ�áé Γ§ ìéΓ�Γ±Γ§ ôïõ ñåëáíôé, áðïöáóéóáìå ïôé áõôåò ôéò ñõèìéóåéò èá Γ�ñáôçóïõìå óáí "master", Γ�áé èá öåñïõìå Γ³Γ¥ áõôåò ôïí áñéóôåñï Γ�éíçôçñá óáí "slave" ñõèìéæïíôáò ìå ôï travel adjustment ôéò óôñïöåò ôïõ ñåëáíôé.. áöïõ åãéíáí Γ�áé áõôá óåéñá åé÷áí ôá throtlecurves Γ�áé ôùí äõï Γ�éíçôçñùí åôóé ùóôå Γ­Γ΅ å÷ïõìå Γ―Γ³Γ― ôï äõíáôïí óõììåôñéΓ�Γ― transition...ïõöööö.  ... ìïíï ðïõ ôá ãñáöù Γ�ïõñáæïìáé...ðïëõ ìáíïõñá ôá äéΓ�éíçôçñéá.. >:( >:( >:( :idiot2: :idiot2:
ðôçôé�á ôùñá, áöïõ óôçèç�å óôï äéáäñïìï áíïéîá óéãá óéãá ôï ã�áæé ãéá íá âåâáéùèù ïôé ïé ìç÷áíåòôñáâáíå ôï éäéï �áé äåí å÷åé ôáóåéò íá öõãåé äåîéá � áñéóôåñá..âåâáéá âïçèáåé ôï ïôé åéíáé nose drager..ìå ôï óôé� ôïõ ã�áæéïõ ëïéðïí ôåñìá , ìïõóé�ç óôá áõôéá ìáò áðï ôéò ìç÷áíåò íá �ïõñäéæïõí, ôñï÷ïäñïìù áñ�åôá, öïâïõìåíïò ôï âáñïò �áé ôñáâùíôáò åëáöñá ôï äåîé óôé� ç �õñéá óç�ùèç�å ùñáéïôáôá èõìéæïíôáò áðïãåéùóç patern (ðáñáäïîùò), ÷ùñéò ôáóåéò íá ñéîåé öôåñï...ôá ìïôåñ äåé÷íïõí íá ìçí æïñéæïíôáé éäéáéôåñá �áé ìå ÷áñá�ôçñéóôé�ç áíåóç ôçí áíåâáæïõí ãñçãïñá øçëá, åíù ôá retracts ìáæåõïõí ùñáéïôáôá...
äåé÷íåé íá ôçò áñåóåé íá ðçãáéíåé ãñçãïñá, åíù äåí áñãçóá, ìåôá ôï ãñçãïñï ôñéìáñéóìá, íá �áíù �áé ôá ðñùôá loops-rolls -splits -immelman..ìå ôçí áéóèçóç ïôé ãéíïíôáé áðï patern ìïíôåëï...ïõôå åãù ôï ðéóôåøá....
äï�éìáæïíôáò áñ�åôá øçëá ôçí ôá÷õôçôá stall äéáðéóôùíù ðñïò ìåãáëç ìïõ å�ðëçîç ïôé åéíáé ðïëõ �áëõôåñá ôá ðñáãìáôá áðï ïôé ôá ðåñéìåíá, áöïõ �ñáôçèç�å óå áñ�åôá ÷áìçëç ôá÷õôçôá ðñéí ñéîåé öôåñï, ïðïõ �áé ðçñá �áé ôï ðñùôï ôñåìïõëï óå ÷åñéá �áé ðïäéá, ïôáí ç áñéóôåñç ìç÷áíç åâçîå ëéãï �áé áìåóùò ìðç�å óå spin.. :o :o....å÷ïíôáò ôïí íïõ ìïõ ïìùò , �áé ÷áñéí óôo ðïëõ ÷ñçóéìï link ôïõ öéëïõ windsurfer, �ëåéíù ôï ã�áæé , âïõôáù ôçí ìõôç �áé ðáéñíù ôá÷õôçôá, áõîïíïíôáò åëáöñá �áé óôáäéá�á ôï ã�áæé, ïðïõ �áé áíôáðï�ñéèç�áí ôá ìïôåñ ôáõôï÷ñïíá �áé óùèç�áìå ïëïé ôåëé�á... :D :D :D
ìåôá áðï �áíáäõï á�ïìç ðçãáéíå-åëá áðïöáóéóá íá ôï �áôåâáóù ìå ôï ìåãáëõôåñï áã÷ïò óå ïëç ôçí ðôçóç...
ãéá áëëç ìéá öïñá ìå åîåðëçîå áöïõ �áôåâç�å ðïëõ ïìïñöá �áé ëéãï ãñçãïñá(ï öïâïò ðïõ ëåãáìå) áëëá �ïâïíôáò ôï ã�áæé äéáðéóôùíù ïôé ïõóéáóôé�á åðéðëååé �áé ìå ÷áìçëç ôá÷õôçôá ÷ùñéò íá öïâéæåé...
ãåíé�ïôåñá ëïéðïí èåùñù ïôé åéíáé åíá ðïëõ �áëï ìïíôåëï ðôçôé�á �áé ìå ôçí ðñïõðïèåóç ïôé ôá ìïôåñ åéíáé óùóôá �ïõñäéóìåíá äåí äéáöåñåé ðôçôé�á ìå åíá áåñïðëáíï ìïíïõ �éíçôçñá..
äéáðéóôùóåéò....ðïëõ �áëï �áé áíáëïãé�á �åíôñáñéóìåíï roll, ÷ùñéò ðïëõ down input...
åîáéñåôé�á loops ìå ôçí äõíáôïôçôá íá áíïéîïõí ðïëõ...éóùò âïçèïõí ïé äõíáôïé �éíçôçñåò...
éäéáéôåñá áðïôåëåóìáôé�ï rudder, ðáñ ïëï ôï ìé�ñï ôïõ ìåãåèïò áëëá �áé ôçò äéáäñïìçò, ç ïðïéá ðåñéïñéæåôáé(äõóôõ÷ùò) áðï ôá elevators....èá çèåëá íá åé÷á ëéãï ìá�ñõôåñá struts óôá ó�åëç ôùí öôåñùí, � ìåãáëõôåñåò ñïäåò ãéáôé åéíáé ðïëõ ÷áìçëï ðéóù, áí �áé äï�éìáæïíôáò ôéò åñãïóôáóéá�åò ñïäåò áõôåò áðëá äåí ÷ùñïõí óôïí ðñïâëåðïìåíï ãéá áíáóõñóç ÷ùñï ... :'( :'(
ðïëõ �áëç óõìðåñéöïñá óôçí áðïãåéùóç-ðñïóãåéùóç, ðïëõ �áëõôåñá áðï ôï áíáìåíïìåíï...
ôï ìïíôåëï �áôáó�åõáóôé�á åéíáé åíá óõíçèåò ARF ìå ôéò ó÷åôé�åò ôïõ áôåëåéåò, ôéò ïðïéåò åõ�ïëá îåðåñíáåé åíáò åìðåéñïò �áôáó�åõáóôçò, áëëá äõó�ïëá ï ðñùôáñçò, ïðùò åðéóçò äåí óõíéóôáôáé ãéá áåñïðëáíï íåïõ ðéëïôïõ � ðéëïôïõ ìå �áðïéá ìåóç åìðåéñéá, ëïãù ôçò äéðëçò ôïðïèåôçóçò....áîéæåé íá áíáöåñèåé ïìùò ïôé å÷åé äïèåé ðñïóï÷ç áðï ôï åñãïóôáóéï ãéá ôéò scale ëåðôïìåñåéåò...(�áðá�éá-ðïëõâïëá-áõôï�ïëçôá-canopy)..
setup.....2 �éíçôçñåò asp fs61ar, ðïõ ãõñéæïõí áðï ìéá ôñéöõëëç graupner 10-7 ìå éäéáéôåñç áíåóç óôéò 10500 óôï åäáöïò...
èåùñù ïôé �áé 11-7 èá åéíáé éóùò �áëõôåñá....óåñâïìç÷áíéóìïé ðïõ ÷ñçóéìïðïéçèç�áí åéíáé, 4 hyperion digital bb-mg ôùí 7,5kg óôá ailerons-elevator-rudder, 2 jr 577 óôï ã�áæé �áé 3 turnigy 9ãñ. óôá retracts, åíá ãéá �áèå ó�åëïò....ãéá ôçí �éíçóç ôïõò öñïíôéæåé åíá ðá� eneloop ôùí 5 óôïé÷åéùí �áé åíáò äå�ôçò jr 10ds...ôåëé�ï âáñïò ðôçóçò áíåõ �áõóéìùí 4550 ãñ..ðïëõ �áëá èåùñù, ïôáí ôï åñãïóôáóéï äéíåé 4950...åðéóçò ôï �åíôñï âáñïõò åéíáé óùóôá ôï ðñïôåéíùìåíï áðï ôï ìáíïõáë..
  Γ­Γ΅ æçôçóù ôçí óõããíùìç óáò åáí ìáΓ�ñõãïñçóá, áëëá ðñïóðáèçóá Γ―Γ³Γ― ìðïñïõóá Γ­Γ΅ åéìáé áíáëõôéΓ�Γ―Γ².

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 Γ�ñáãìáôéΓ�Γ΅, åíá ðïëõ ïìïñöï äéΓ�çíçôçñéï ÷èåò âñåèçΓ�Γ¥ óôïí áåñá. Óõã÷áñçôçñéá Γ�áé ðáëé óôïí ìðáìðá ãéá ôçí Γ�áôáóΓ�åõç. ×ùñéò õðåñâïëç, Γ―Γ© 60áñåò asp áí Γ�áé Γ΅Γ�ïìç áóôñùôåò äïõëåõïõí Γ�áôáðëçΓ�ôéΓ�Γ΅! Çôáí ëéãï ìðåëáò Γ§ ñõèìéóç ôùí ìç÷áíùí áëëá ìå ôï ðïõ óôñùóïõí ãéá ôá Γ�áëá, ðéóôåõù äå èá õðáñ÷åé Γ�áíåíá ðñïâëçìá. Åéíáé ùñáéï Γ­Γ΅ ôéò Γ΅Γ�Γ―ΓµΓ² åéäéΓ�Γ΅ ïôáí óõíôïíéæïõí. Åðéóçò, ìïõ áñåóå ðïëõ Γ§ ðôçóç ôïõ ìïíôåëïõ!!!  :)...... áëëá ôá pattern åéíáé pattern  . Γ�áé -   ;D ;D ;D
  Γ�áé ðñïóãåéùíïíôáé Γ�áé ìå ìéá ñïäá áí ÷ñåéáóôåé  8)smiley  ;D ;D

Ãåéá óïõ Ôüëçò.�ïëý �áë� ôá �áô�öåñåò ì�÷ñé ôþñá.�ð��åò óå ìéá �áôçãïñéá ôïõ hobby, ðïõ �ÑÅ�ÅÉ íá ó÷åäé�æåéò ôçí ðô�óç óïõ ðñéí ôçí �ðïãå�ùóç.(ðùò èá áðïãåéùèå�,ðïóï ã��æé,�ÙÓ �áé ��Õ èá ��ííçò EMERGENCY LANDING,okay.t.l.)�áé �áëï å�íáé íá ìçí ðåô�ò óõã÷ñüíùò ìå �ëëïõò óôïí á�ñá ,ãéá íá á�ïýò ôïõò �éíçô�ñåò óïõ. �áé åãþ ðåôþ twin engine áñ�åô� ÷ñïíéá,�áé ��ïõ ë�ãá ðñ�ãìáôá ðïõ èá óå âïçè�óïõí áñ�åô�. Synchro.Engines:(áöïý ïé íô�æåò/servo �éíïýíôáé üóï �áëýôåñá óôï �äéï â�ìá)¸íáí -¸íáí ìïíï ôïõ ìå ôï ÓÔÑ�Ö��ÅÔÑ�,èá ôïõò ö�ñåéò óôï Top RPM �áé ìåô� èá ôïõò �áôåâ�óåéò 500-700 RPM ëéãüôåñï.Ôçí ìé�ñ� âåëüíá idle èá ôçí åî�ò ë�ãï ðëïýóéa.(ðïôå Lean) �çí ðñïóðáèå�ò íá ôïõò óõã÷ñïí�óåéò ìå ôï áõô� óïõ,ó�ãïõñá èá �÷åéò dead stick.Ôþñá ôé ��íïõìå ãéá ôçí ðåñ�ðôùóç dead stick:�á ñýèìéóçò ôéò ìç÷áí�ò (throtles,ã��æé) íá ìðïñïýí íá óâ�íïõí áðü ôï stick ôçò Ôçëå�áôåýèõíóçò,þóôå áí ï �íáò óâ�óåé åí ðô�óç,íá ìðïñå�ò íá óâ�óåéò �áé ôïí �ëëï ,ãéá íá ðñïóãçùèçò&quot åý�ïëá(Emergency Landing ðïõ áí�öåñá ðñéí). �õôü ì�÷ñé íá äéä�îåéò ôïí åáõôüí óïõ íá ðåô�ò ìå rudder/aillerons 100% ôçò ðô�óåùò.Ôüôå èá äýíáóáé (ü÷éáðüëõôïíáðñïóãçùíåóå ìå ôïí �íáí �éíçô�ñá. Note:�í åí ðô�óç ÷�óçò ôïí �íá �éíçô�ñá,�áé �÷åéò áñ�åô� ôá÷ýôçôá,�Ç� �üøçòôïã��æé.Ç å�å�ôçìåíç ôá÷ýôçôá èá óå âïçè�óåé íá öô�óåéò óôïí äé�äñïìï,�áé ôüôå óâ�óå �áé ôçí �ëëçí �áé ðñïóãçùóïõ&quot.
�ñïð�ëåò:Å�íáé �áëï íá åx�ò �íá ì�ãåèïò ìé�ñüôåñï þóôå ïé ìç÷áí�ò íá äïõëåýïõí óå ðåñéóóüôåñá PPM (ëéãùôùñï öüñôùìá)þóôå íá ìçí åî�ò ôï ðñüâëçìá ôïõ íá óâ�íïõí ç"áñãïýí ìüëéò doshs ã��æé,�áé åð�óçò èá ðñïóãåéþíåóáé ìå idle �áé ìé�ñ� ôá÷ýôçôá ÷ùñ�ò ôï ðñüâëçìá íá óâ�íïõí ëüãw ë�ãá RPM.Åëð�æù íá óå âï�èçóá ëéã��é Jim USA�áé íá ðñïóè�óù �ðüöåõãå íá óôñ�âåéò ðñïò ôçí ìåñé� ôçò óâçóì�íçò ìç÷áí�ò

�ðñ�âï ðáéäé�, óõã÷áñçô�ñéá ãéá ôçí ðáñèåíé�� �áé ôçí ðïëý �áôáôïðéóôé�� ðåñéãñáö� (áí �áé å�÷áôå õðïó÷åèå� â�íôåï !!!)

Ó÷åôé�� ìå ôá ARF, ìéá áô�ëåéá ðïõ öá�íåôáé íá å�íáé �áíüíáò å�íáé ïé ìé�ñ�ò ñüäåò. Åãþ óå üëá ôá ìïíô�ëá õðïëïã�æù ôï óùóôü ì�ãåèïò áðü 3-views �áé áíï�ãù ôéò öùëé�ò óôá öôåñ� þóôå íá ìðá�íïõí óùóô� scale ñüäåò

�ðñáâï �áé áðï ìåíá Ôïëç, �áëåò ðôçóåéò ìå ôï �áéíïõñéï åñãáëåéï....Âáëå ìáò �áé �áìéá öùôï áðï ôçí ðôçóç áí õðáñ÷åé åôóé ãéá íá ðáñïõìå ëéãï ìáôé...

Ôïëç ìåãåéá ôï åñãáëåéï ....ôá scale çôáí ðáëéá ìïõ áãáðç ...�áé á�ïìá åéíáé áí �áé äåí åé÷á ðïôå 2�éíçôçñéï åé÷á ôçí ôõ÷ç íá äï�éìáóù åíá 2-2.5 ìåôñï canadair �áé ï ç÷ïò áðï ôéò 2 ôåôñá÷ñïíåò åéíáé ó�åôç ðïñùóç :D åðéóçò ìïõ �ïðç�áí ôá ðïäéá ïôáí ìïõ åóâçóå ç ìéá ìç÷áíç �áé ìçí ãíùñéæïíôáò ôïéðïôá ãéá áõôç ôçí ðåñéðôùóç çôáí èáõìá ðïõ ðñïóãåéùèç�á óå 1 �ïììáôé ...ôï ìïíôåëï ðåôïõóå ðïëõ ðáñáîåíá ìå 1 ìïôåñ ..�áé ðáëé �áëåò ðôçóåéò ... :thumbs up:

Ö�ëå Ôüëç �áëïñ�æé�ï ôï åñãáëå�ï �áé �áë�ò ðô�óåéò. Äåí î�ñù ôé èá ��íåéò áëë� ïðïóä�ðïôå ðñ�ðåé íá ìá äå�îåéò video áðü áõôü ôï õð�ñï÷ï áåñïðë�íï

Ôïëç ΓµΓ°Γ�Γ±Γ·Γ―ΓµΓ­ Γ�áôé ðñáãìáôΓ�Γ�éá ðïõ ñõèìΓ�æïõí ôçí Γ°Γ�åóç áðï ìéá äåîáìåíΓ� Γ³Γ¥ 2 ìç÷áíΓ�Γ² ãéá  ïìïéüìïñöç Γ±Γ―Γ� ðáñï÷Γ�Γ² Γ�áõóΓ�ìïõ,
 Γ¤Γ�Γ² Γ¬Γ�ðùò Γ³Γ―Γµ öáíïýí Γ·Γ±Γ�óéìá  ;)
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ãéùñãï ìïõ...åõ÷áñéóôù ãéá ôá links ,áëëá ôï ìïíôåëï ìïõ äåí ìðïñåé íá õðïóôçñéîåé åíá ôáí� ìåóá óôçí áôñá�ôï, �áé ëïãù ÷ùñïõ ï ïðïéïò äåí õðáñ÷åé, áëëá �á ôïé ïôé, ïôáí âãáæåéò ôï öôåñï èá ðñåðåé íá áðïóõíäåóåéò �áé ôçí ðáñï÷ç ôïõ �áõóéìïõ, äçëáäç ìáíïõñá, ëáäéëá, âñùìéá, ôáëáéðùñéá... ;D ;D ;D ;D

áñãçóá ëéãï ,áëëá �ñáôçóá ôçí õðïó÷åóç ìïõ....íá ëïéðïí �áé åíá âéíôåá�é áðï ôï VQ A26 INVADER...
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�áëçóðåñá.
�ïéï áåñïðëáíï WW2 èåùñåéôáé åóåéò ôï ðéï åõ�ïëï óôï ðåôáãìá;
�áé ðïéáò åôáéñåéáò;

Åéíáé ðïëëá ôá ìïíôåëá ...âïìâáñäéóôé�á, �áôáäéù�ôé�á,ôïõ íáõôé�ïõ?? åðéóçò ìåãáëï ñïëï ðáéæåé ç åôáéñéá �áôáó�åõçò .Ãéíå ëéãï ðïéï óõã�å�ñéìåíïò. :)

 Γ‚áóéΓ�Γ§ åñùôçóç !!!      Γ�åñåéò Γ­Γ΅ ðåôáò ???   Γ�Γ­ Γ―Γ·Γ©  Γ�ïéôá åäù .....   http://www.heliland.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=105&products_id=3187
 Γ΅Γ­  íáé...  ôïôå  äåí  åéíáé  óùóôç  Γ§  åñùôçóç !!!!!

�áëçóð�ñá!

Ãéá íá áíôáðï�ñéèå� �íá ìïíô�ëï óå scale ðô�óç ðñ�ðåé íá �÷åé áðï 2ì �áé ð�íù �íïéãìá öôåñþí. �áñüëá áõô� óôéò áåñïôïì�ò �÷ïõí ã�íåé áëëáã�ò ãéá ðéï åõ�ïë�á
óôçí ðô�óç. �ôáí èá äéáë�îåéò åíá ìïíô�ëï scale åéäé�� åíá ôïõ 2ïõ �� , äåí èá ôï äéáë�îåéò ìå ãíþìïíá áí åéíáé åý�ïëï �.ô.ë. áëë� ôï ôé óïõ áñ�óåé áðï üëá
áõôá ðïõ �÷åéò äåé.

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Åý�ïëá óôçí �áôáó�åõ� �áé ôçí ðô�óç, ãåñ�, üìïñöá âáì�íá ìå flaps & retracts å�íáé ôá Kyosho .50 warbirds, áãáðçì�íï ìïõ ôï Focke Wolf FW-190

Å�íáé "sport-scale" ìå �íïéãìá öôåñþí 1.5 ì., â�ñïò ãýñù óôá 3 �., è�ëåé 56 - 80 4-÷ñïíï � âãá�íåé óå ��äïóç çëå�ôñé�ïý (ìå ðüñôá ãéá ôçí ìðáôáñ�á)

Åíôáîåé íá ãéíù ðéï �áôáíïçôïò.
�åôáù ìå trainer á�ïìá.
Ç åñùôçóç ìïõ áíáöåñåôáé óôï åðïìåíï ìïõ áåñïðëáíï ðïõ èá çèåëá íá åéíáé warbird.
Γ�Γ·Γ© ...äåí âéáæïìáé áðëá èåëù Γ­Γ΅ Γ�áôáëçîù Γ³Γ¥ Γ�áðïéï áåñïðëáíï ãéá Γ­Γ΅ ôï ïñãáíùóù Γ�áëá ôï èåìá  :)
Ãéá áõôï ëïéðïí ñùôáù ãéá åíá èåñìé�ï warbird ðïõ íá åéíáé åõ�ïëï óôï ðåôáãìá óáí ôï äåõôåñï ìïõ áåñïðëáíï ìåôá ôï trainer.
Ó�åöôç�á ôo AT6 Texan.
Ôé ëåôå;

ðïëõ �áëç åðéëïãç ,éóùò áðï ôá åõ�ïëïôåñá óôçí ðôçóç áðï ôá æçôïõìåíá. :thumbs up:

ôï åé÷á Γ³Γ¥ Γ�Γ―Γ�Γ�éíï  ÷ñùìá ,ôçò GRAUPNER (âãáéíåé Γ�áé  Γ³Γ¥ VQ). Γ�Γ΅ å÷åéò ΓµΓ° ïøéí Γ³Γ―Γµ ïôé ôá ðïëåìéΓ�Γ΅ scale,ëïãù ôïõ Γ£Γ�Γ±Γ© ÷ñùìáôïò äåí öáéíïíôáé ðïëõ Γ�áëá ïôáí åéíáé ìáΓ�Γ±ΓµΓ΅ áðï åóåíá (åéäéΓ�Γ΅ áí äåí åéóáé ðïëõ åìðåéñïò