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Τίτλος: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: palo47svk στις Κυριακή, 1 Απρ 2012, 10:56:56
Registration for FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia was open in Trnava FxJ web page:
http://www.trnavaf3j.sk/on_linef5j2012.html
Startlist will be visible in end of next week in the same page


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: eolos30 στις Κυριακή, 1 Απρ 2012, 22:46:28
Τι ειναι αυτο το Licence?


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: palo47svk στις Τετάρτη, 20 Ιούν 2012, 12:05:52
Τι ειναι αυτο το Licence?
Licence can be national from GR National Aeroclub or international from FAI.
Other details you can see here:
http://www.trnavaf3j.sk/
Current list of the competitors:
http://www.trnavaf3j.sk/Download/F5J_Inter_Tour_Competitions_2012/Receipts_F5J_v1.pdf
Current ranking in FAI-F5J Inter Tour 2012 you can see here:
http://www.trnavaf3j.sk/Download/Results_intertour_f5j_2012/trnava_f5j_2012_total_table_v4.pdf

Will be nice receive official results from the competition in Akraifnio (May 19-20 2012)...  We are wianting impatiently :-)
Palo

 


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: _ΤΑΣΟΣ_ στις Τετάρτη, 20 Ιούν 2012, 12:51:49
Helo Palo

Thanks for the announcement - invitation !

This is the page for AKRAIFNIO Nationals
http://www.aeromodelling.gr/ForumS/index.php?topic=28059.0

Results : http://epae.elao.gr/images/stories/documents/2012_am_f5jgr_res_akraifnio.pdf

Thessaloniki's "Regional Tour" June, 10th
http://www.aeromodelling.gr/ForumS/index.php?topic=28500.0

Results: http://epae.elao.gr/images/stories/documents/elao_am_2012_F5JGR_res_salonica.pdf

Regards
Tasos


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: palo47svk στις Τετάρτη, 20 Ιούν 2012, 14:38:21
Helo Palo

Thanks for the announcement - invitation !
Results : http://epae.elao.gr/images/stories/documents/2012_am_f5jgr_res_akraifnio.pdf
Regards, Tasos

Dear Tasos, many thanks for your answer... I have seen these results, nice number of competitors, congratulation...
But for the serie of FAI-F5J Inter Tour 2012 we will need a bit different results :-)
Winner must have 1000 points and other competitors as is usual for international ranking - e.g. in F3J :-)
Can you help me with this ?

Best regards
Palo



Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: GRELE στις Τετάρτη, 20 Ιούν 2012, 15:19:37
Dear Palo
I do not see a simple way to provide you with what you ask  because of......
The Greek F5J-GR rules are a bit different than the FAI rules.
The reason is that everybody here is either interested in flying  the event or not at all.So there is a tremendous lack of helpers timekeepers etc.In fact it is quite difficult to find a person for the place of the contest director.
What we did was to create a suitable set of rules which eliminated the  need for organization personnel.
Essentially it is a "man on man" event without normalization needs.
There are only penalty points depended upon completion of the simple task of flying 10 minutes and then landing during the 11th minute's duration in a quite large area(no seperate targets).The penalty points are awarded in respect with the landing sequence of the participants.There are some more rules also....

In case you need more information please post here.
Bill Papadopoulos


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: _ΤΑΣΟΣ_ στις Τετάρτη, 20 Ιούν 2012, 22:55:47
Palo,

Vasilis covered most of the competition ....regarding organization and scoring.

I'll try to describe the event, everybody's assistance is welcome !

So we gather at the modelfield or a field.
The task we fly is simple ...10 minutes and an additional 1 for landing !
We have a stopwatch that initially informes the pilots 30 sec before the take off and countdown to launch with a consecutive sound for the last 5 sec.
On the 8th minute stopwatch sounds again to inform pilots about the flight time.
On the 9th minute stopwatch sounds again on the 9.30 and the last 10 seconds, if I remember well !
People full filling this task are getting 0 penalty points.
Penalty points, are assigned to pilots that didn't reach the safety of the 10 minutes flight and as follows
The first landed is getting the maximum of the number of pilots flying in the row no more than 12 pilots = 11 points
The second 10 and goes up to the previous of the last which gets 1. Even if the last pilot landed prior the 10 minutes limit he gets 0 points.

Ranking is finalized at the end of the day, if we fly 9 rounds we throw away one and if we fly 10 and above two !

At the end we might have a ranking fly off for the three top pilots and also for anybody else on a tie !

This kind of competition, as Vasilis described, is eliminating the need of timekeepers per pilot and helpers.

Quite simple and interesting together.

Hope I made it clear to you !!!

This video shows a launch and the stopwatch sounds while reaching the end of the 30sec countdown
(I release the Gracia).
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Tasos


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: palo47svk στις Πέμπτη, 21 Ιούν 2012, 09:35:20
Dear Tasos,
I undestand your rules... This isn´t problem. But in this case we can´t put the results from Akrainfio to our Inter Tour table. And this is a problem  :(


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: alex.cularis στις Πέμπτη, 21 Ιούν 2012, 13:40:39
καλησπερα
Απο οτι  καταλαβα ο  PALO θελει  μια  αναγωγη των  αποτελεσματων  με αριστα  αντι για το  0  το 1000 και  αυτο  εκτιμω  οτι μονο  η ΕΛΑΟ  μπορει να το κανει .


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: eolos30 στις Πέμπτη, 21 Ιούν 2012, 17:32:02


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καλησπερα
Απο οτι  καταλαβα ο  PALO θελει  μια  αναγωγη των  αποτελεσματων  με αριστα  αντι για το  0  το 1000 και  αυτο  εκτιμω  οτι μονο  η ΕΛΑΟ  μπορει να το κανει .

                          Ναι πολυ σωστά
                     ειναι προφανές και ειναι κρίμα να μην εχει γινει ακόμα.
                                             Μακαρι να μπορουσα να βοηθήσω
                           Δεν ειναι δα και το παγκόσμιο αλλα μας παρακολουθουν και τόσες χώρες


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: Γιάννης Κωνσταντακάτος στις Πέμπτη, 21 Ιούν 2012, 17:45:06
Αγαπητέ Ανδρέα,

δεν είναι εφικτό να μετατραπεί η ισχύουσα βαθμολογία μας σε ποσοστά με άριστα το 1000.


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: palo47svk στις Πέμπτη, 21 Ιούν 2012, 18:07:51
Good news for the competitors from F5J Akrainfio:
Boss of our F5J-Inter Tour Computing Center (Mr. Juro Baciak) just find nice method for recomputing your results to the "Inter Tour mode".
Complete table (tomorrow with results from Grece too) you can see here:

http://www.trnavaf3j.sk/Download/Results_intertour_f5j_2012/trnava_f5j_2012_total_table_v4.pdf

With best regards
Palo Lishak


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: _ΤΑΣΟΣ_ στις Πέμπτη, 21 Ιούν 2012, 23:14:35
Hallo Palo,

Nice try but the results you calculated are from Thessaloniki not AKRAIFNIO !

Regards


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: palo47svk στις Παρασκευή, 22 Ιούν 2012, 09:04:28
Yes, sorry for mistake...  ???   We will change it today. 


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: alex.cularis στις Παρασκευή, 22 Ιούν 2012, 18:39:10
kαλη η προσκληση
 Αλλα οι εποχες περιεργες και τα  οικονομικα  στενεψαν πολυ


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: eolos30 στις Παρασκευή, 22 Ιούν 2012, 23:19:09


       Με ενα  στεσιον η καλύτερα με ανα βανακι, τρια ατομα, που θα μοιραστουν και την
                          οδήγηση.Υψοδιακόπτη η μαλλον υψοκαταγραφικό σου δανίζουν εκει , υπνο σε σκηνη.
          Ωραία εμπειρία. Μονο τις πρασινάδες τους που βλέπεις..Το αποτέλεσμα ειναι το λιγότερο..
                 
     


Τίτλος: Απ: FAI-F5J Inter Tour competition in Trnava - Slovakia
Αποστολή από: palo47svk στις Κυριακή, 24 Ιούν 2012, 23:19:05
, Kalimera Palo,  Dont forget us we are waiting for the results from F5J Akraifnio.  Palo what do you thing is the most economic way to come to your F5j? Andreas
Hallo Andreas, results from GRE was changed yet...  About economy - we prepare 5 flying days during one week - first will be Slovak FAI-F5J open in Dubnica - August 18-19th, then measured training in August 21-st, then last Inter Tour round in August 23-24-th in Trnava and Inter Tour - Grande Final in the same day and the same airfield.  So, I think, this can be economic, when you come by bigger car for 3-5 persons together.
Accomodation in Dubnica costs approx. 12-14 EUR per person and night, in Trnava approx. 15-20 EUR (or you can sleep in tent in the airfield).
When you come from Athens, it is approx. 1700 km.... and it isn´t a longest distance, because we have registered boys from France, Israel, Ukrajine, Russia and Argentina - all from a bit longer distance :-).

We aer waiting for the team from Grece.... Only this year it is first time :-)